By reshma on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 12:15 am:

hello, i have been trying to get hold of this osase lotion as i have used it in the past and found that the outcome of it was excellent. how do i get hold of another bottle? please can somebody advise me futher on this?
thanks

By heartfelt on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 08:47 pm:

although i have not verified any independant information, i believe it's a set up, because 4 a long time they have tried 2 ban the cream without any luck, NOT BECAUSE IT HAD ANY STEROIDS IN IT, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS ILLEGAL N HADN'T BEEN APPROVED BY THE NHS OR THE MEDICAL APPROVAL SOCIETY (who ever approves this stuff), anyway as i was sayin. my opinion is that because someone as found a miricale cure (because let's be honest that's what OSAS is) n practically putting health sector out of business where Eczema is concerned, no one want's the creams that the doctor's prescribe anymore, because they jus pure n simply DO NOT work n make conditions worse. No one want's 2 buy prescribtions 4 them either so their losing money (AND THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT)the man/woman who makes the cream is making more money than them n we all no wat this goverment is like don't we (i say no more)so this is how this steroid ploy was created 2 put him/her out of business, it saying this i'm not sayin that the steroid thing is not true, but come on people that's what they give u anyway n prescribe 4 u n ur family also your babies too, to me steroid is steroid no matter how little, or much it gets, this man/woman helped me to help my daughter stop suffering, u muss know how it feels 2 watch ur child scratch till she's litcually bleeding to death sheets, clothes, blankets etc, but most of all their bodies covered in blood, like they've been butchered, crying endlessly, unsettled all the time because of the uncomfortableness n how it makes them feel, skin dry beyond means, cracked, weeping, infected due to constant scratching n flare ups, cum on people i don't think this man/woman intented to hurt anyone, just help, his inspiration was probaly his own son or daughter have u ever thought of that because it's hard 4 any parent 2 watch their child go through that kind of suffering, and if he didn't mention their was steroid in it, n there was he muss have a valid reason, it's not like u still wouldn't of bought it if u did know, IT WORKS, give the guy a break, i 4 1 am greatful n will cotinue 2 use this brilliant n amazing creation. my daughter was 8 mths wen i started using OSAS she's now 2 n 4mths, haven't had OSAS 4 arown 8 weeks now due to all the politics n she has now started to suffer again although not as bad, but bad n nothing else works, so i've had 2 order on line, ither that or she contiue's 2 suffer tremendously, if any one as any other suggestions pls feel free to suggest. my daughter has used it without anyside effects n is happier with it than without n dat is my main concern, if their was anything wrong with her skin her doctor would of said, cause she still sees the doctor regardless.

By Weed on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 05:39 pm:

Hi,

anyone know if Etin Skin solution (as Osas is now branded) has been tested by the MHRA? I notice the ingredients are different with this cream.

By LYDIA on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 11:40 am:

AS A FAMILY WE'VE BEEN HAVING OSAS IN HOUSE FOR YEARS NOW. IT'S BEEN A GREAT RELIEF AND HELP TO OUR ALL SKIN IRRITATIONS.THE COLOUR OF THE BOTTLE WAS WHITE AND NAVY BLUE (OSAS INTENSIVE LOTION).
UNFORTURNATELY OUR LAST LOTION IS ABOUT TO FINISH AND WOULD LIKE TO ORDER THE SAME. I AM SCEPTICAL ABOUT THE NEW OSAS ON THE MARKET. I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THEY ARE A DILUTED VERSIONS. I NEED THE OSAS LOTION IN THE WHITE AND DARK BLUE CONTAINER. THAT'S WHAT OUR FAMILY SKIN IS USED TO.
WOULD U BE ABLE TO GET US ONE? LET ME HEAR FROM YOU.
(nb) I DO NOT WANT THIS MESSAGE ON THE INTERNET.

Thank u - C

By Pete on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 06:54 pm:

Just wanted advise on the OSAS lotion. Is it advisable to use on skin?? Is it safe at all???? Why have they changed their name to ETIS??? Please HELP!!

By daria on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 06:00 am:

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By omi on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 11:05 pm:

osas website is back online and they are selling

osas cream again

By miss_p25 on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 01:57 pm:

hey everyone,you can still buy osas cream in its original bottle and also in a new bottle thats called osas just body lotion, i live in hackney and they are available in most afro/caribbean hair shops, my daughter has eczema really bad and this has sort of worked in the past i just bought the new bottle but havent tried it yet i'll let you guys know when i've tried it.
also i have been using a brand called aveeno which is available from your doctor and also boots, i would normally use the cream and lotion and i would soak her in the bath oil this has also helped us
hope this info was useful

By AYOUNG88 on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:27 am:

You tried all the steroids Preet?

Are you kidding me? Oh my god...I feel sorry for your daughter. Her kidney and liver are in need of some desperate help...

By AYOUNG88 on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:25 am:

HOW ABOUT STOP ADDRESSING THE SYMPTOMS OF ECZEMA AND FIND OUT WHATS CAUSING THIS SYSTEMIC DISEASE TO EXIST...

I'M EXTREMELY AGITATED AT THE FACT MY MOTHER DIDN'T DO HER RESEARCH AND SLATHERED STEROID CREAM ON ME AS A BABY. NOW I'M LEFT TO RECTIFY MY CONDITION NATURALLY...

ASSERT SOME DUE DILIGENCE AND DO SOME RESEARCH!

WHY DON'T YOU START WITH LEAKY GUT AND FOOD INTOLERANCES. IS YOUR BABY BREAST FED...? BETTER BE. I WASN'T.

By Preet on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 10:09 am:

Hi Linda

Are there any Champori stockists in London or the UK? I have been struggling to combat my daughters eczema for years, its worse around the face area especially the eye area and now seeping. My daughter is 9 yrs old and getting distressed as it is affected her school and every day life style. Friends at school are not making nasty comments. Could really do with something that works. Tried all steriods.

Lok forward to hearing from you.

Preet

By Linda on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 02:38 am:

osas is banned forever because of illegal steroids found in it. I was happy with osas, too, before the steroid story came out. Luckily I found Champori cream/spray combo for eczema and it works quite well and there are no steroids in it!!
Good stuff to check out.

By omi on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 10:00 pm:

will osas be back, i need this cream

By zara on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 10:59 pm:

is there any chance of getting hold of this lotion?

By AFLS on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 03:00 pm:

Not sure anyone will be getting this product -

thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23483149-details/Danger+lotion+is+seized+by+battering+ram+police/article.do

By canuck on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 12:48 am:

You can still get it online at I just ordered 3 more. .01% of betamethasone doesn't scare me, but my hands USED to scare others. ;-)

By motherlove on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 03:25 pm:

HOPE RELIEF - used it and it worked for my son's nappy rash but my baby's skin dried out and became flaky and red. The container says that it will do this but after two weeks of this I decided to give up. OSAS is the only thing that helped so if you are already using cortisone, then why not try something with a trace of it? It seems the product is now banned but desperate conditions call for desperate measures.

There is also a product called Annique Resque cream containing Rooibos tea. It is not as effective as the OSAS but takes away the inflamation and itching immediately.

By motherlove on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 03:21 pm:

My 7-month baby has suffered immensely with accute eczema and at 5 months he was prescribed oral steroids, Emovate cream (Stronger than 1% steroid) and wet bandages with a stronger concoction of steroid. Nothing worked but OSAS cleared his skin within 24 hours of use. Everyone is up in arms over a trace of steriod when we all know we will go back to using the pure concentrated stuff with little success - at least this is the case with me. He now eats whatever he likes and his skin looks great. I will now slowly wean him off the OSAS by diluting it with Vaseline Intesive Care lotion and will use the OSAS cream if he flares up again. No one can justify me leaving my son with scalding red and itchy skin when OSAS is able to help.

By canuck on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 05:54 am:

Looks like they are now admitting OSAS contains steroids.

osasone.com/homepage.htm

OSAS body lotion is a specially formulated skin moisturizing lotion with 99.94% natural ingredients, the main active ingredient are Clotrimazole 0.05% and Betamethasone dipropionate 0.01% to supplement or boost the effective properties of the natural ingredients like ALOE BARBADENSIS (Aloe Vera), sweet almond, etc. It is specially formulated to soothe and moisturise your skin against rough, dry, flakes and itchiness thus leaving a comfortable silky smooth and adorable skin.

By Weed on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 01:55 pm:

Hi Emily,

I was wondering if there is any more news from the MHRA?

Thanks!

By emma r on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 09:40 pm:

thanks kelly

ive been looking but not had much joy, looked very homeopathic to me too, but like with the OSAS you can just never tell.

By Jimbob on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 01:46 pm:

Hi Emma, I don't know much about this cream really apart from that from the ingredients it looks to be a homeopathic product. However the testomonials that I have read seem a little concerning as it works so fast. I will have a look into it further and see if I can come across anything else.

Kelly

By emma r on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 07:11 pm:

hi every one, i cant seem to start a new conversation on this board so thought id do it here!!

Anyone know anything about a cream called "hopes relief" cream for eczema??? There is some one on another site i use asking......and this has always been the best source for info on thses types of things so thought id ask

I am personally always sceptical of these creams, can anyone give me any advice or knowledge i can pass on ta x

By Jimbob on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 08:34 am:

Thats crazy, at least it states that it contains steroids. The thing is though like you state he has no license to sell it. I am assuming thats the case anyway.

By me on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 10:10 pm:

Just looked at his website and he is STILL selling it - he has added that it contains steroid, but why have the MHRA not closed him down??? He is not licensed to sell it. I don't understand what is taking so long.

By emma r on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 02:38 pm:

thanks LA

By LA on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 10:42 am:

what will happen is - the MHRA are investigating the cream and if they feel the law has been breached criminal procedings will start.

By emma r on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 02:58 pm:

So what will happen to "austin"? If he excists that is!

By Moderator on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 02:14 pm:

I've transferred all your messages here, as it is easier to post a message on a shorter thread.

By LA on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 12:11 pm:

thanks emily

By Emily on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 12:08 pm:

OK, I have just got off the phone from the MHRA.

The guy was very helpful, but as he works in policy rather than being of a medical background, he could only speculate on the meaning of the percentages and why two bottles were steroid-free etc.

Here are the main points:

1. The quantities that Brian set out below are correct:

1 bottle - no steroids
1 bottle - 0.009%
1 bottle - 0.034%

2. They have all the details of Austin, and all websites and shops selling it. It is in the hands of the enforcement people who will be taking the appropriate action.

3. IF it was caused by contamination, this means that the factory was not regulated, which it should have been.

It seems that the varying amounts and indeed, complete lack of steroid in some, could, as someone said here, be because it was a pretty unprofessional set up, with varying amounts getting mixed, OR contamination, which should have occurred if the factory had been professional, regulated etc.

I know that I haven't really got any further in terms of information. I still do not know what to believe. Obviously I have met this guy (Austin) and liked and trusted him.

On one hand, he has been doing this for 3 years (I believe) so surely he could have sought professional guidance as to how to go about this properly.

On the other hand, he wanted to get this product into chemists; he was selling to shops etc. I was talking about writing to dermatologists about the lotion and he was more than happy about this... I also told him that I was going to have it tested... again he was more than happy!?

Anyway, rest-assured that action will be taken. It won't be sold for much longer.

By LA on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:40 am:

Good for you Emily, let us know how you get on.

By emily on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:32 am:

It is true - there's no way that all those shops would be selling it if they knew the facts that have come to light.

I have now had a message on my mobile from a guy at MHRA with a number to call back so I will be returning that call when my daughter has her nap (difficult to concentrate with a toddler trying to grab the phone)

I haven't spoken to Austin. If the MHRA tell me that these amounts could not be due to contamination, then I will be doing more than talking to Austin and I will go out of my way to stop him.

By LA on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:14 am:

Hi emily,

I noticed the crossed posts.

Have you had a statement from Austin yet?

I emailed some sites yesterday, sending them the link from MHRA press release, on the off chance that perhaps they hadn't heard yet - you have to give people the benefit of the doubt, that they too never knew about the steriods.

Have the MHRA been back in contact with you?
Is there any update to the situation now?

By Me on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:13 am:

eczemabodylotion states on their website "OSAS Sales Suspension
Sales of OSAS have been suspended on the recomendation from the MHRA as a precaution due to recent sample test showed traces of steroids present. Although these traces were low and previous test proved negative. We have been advised to no longer provide this product until the matter can be fully investigated.

The manufacturer maintains no steroids are added to the product. Should you wish to speak directly with the manufacturer, their website is osasone.com, or their telephone number is 020 8880 0269 and email address: info@osasone.com for further information"

By Emily on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:04 am:

We have crossed posts again.

It still looks that way on my PC too, and if I do a search for OSAS lotion and then click on your site, it still shows OSAS and the pictures and comments. The only thing that has changed is that you can't buy it.

I presume it has changed then? If so, I'm glad, and it is now some ebay sellers and Austin's site that need to be changed.

By Me on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:02 am:

So no one has read the statement on the site that say "OSAS sales susspended" and the fact that the product image and ordering has been moved to the bottom of the page?

By LA on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:01 am:

what do you mean annonymity? What exactly would you like to know about me?

I have just re checked the eczema body lotion, and I see that it is no longer for sale, but all the promotion and quotes are still there...

one think I wanted to ask you brian was, on the manufacturers site osasone.com, he has a warning about not using it on children unless it was diluted - did you too give this warning when selling the stuff?

because on eczemabodylotion.com, I see no such warning but there are pictures of babies faces, as well as statements from parents who have used it on children...

By Emily on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 09:58 am:

BrianW, you must see that you are upsetting people. I, as a (previous) seller, am mortified that people are panicking about the health of their children, due to something I had involvement in promoting.

Surely now that you know that some of the bottles contain steroids, you must see that you cannot continue to promote the lotion? In fact, you must do all you can to do the opposite. Why not put a statement about the steroid content on your website as I have done?

OK, so you're not selling it, but if people read the positive comments on your site, they will then go to the next available site or shop and buy it there.

I assumed you were innocent in all this, as I was, but by not taking action and continuing to defend the cream, you are perpetuating the belief that you are running or aiding some kind of scam.

By BrianW on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 09:46 am:

LA. nice to hide behind annonymity isn't it? I suggest you check your browser cache as it might be because you are loading an old page stored on YOUR MACHINE, I'll look forward to you appologies in due course!!!

By LA on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 09:37 am:

you guys are mental....I have just been on the website eczema body lotion and you are still selling OSAS and unless I am really missing something, you haven't got any warnings about it and you are still showing a babies face and a statement from a parent about how good the cream was...

As for trying to make a difference to those that are suffering, give me a break, you are trying to scam money out of people selling a product that you have falsely advertised as steriod free, when that is not the case.. and while money is a big issue, the bigger issue is you could be causing harm, serious harm to peoples health.

Your comment about the loss to the eczema community is a complete joke, people suffering from any kind of skin condition should be warned never to come within 2 feet of you - you are a liability to peoples health.

I honestly think you are not right in the head if you are still defending the blantant fraud that this product was.

By BrianW on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 09:13 am:

LA, you have gotten personal, and yes that is offensive, yes I have nothing to fear from any legal authorities and yes the eczema community loss will be greater than mine and people like yourself are the reason for my decsion to no longer communicate on public boards like this

By Me on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 09:07 am:

eczemabodylotion for those who cannot read is not selling or activly promoting OSAS, I thought it was quiet clear and a statement to that effect is on the home page?????

By BrianW on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 09:04 am:

O.K I understand people are concerned, but they do not need to accuse people trying to make a difference and help those who suffer of:
1, profiteering from peoples misery
2, accusations of scamming
3, deliberately making fraudulent claims
4, conducting illegal transactions.

I could go on, but whats the point....

In order to understand what has happened, lets just be clear. The traces found in the samples are very low, yes I agree any steroids are unexpected and dissapointing and we were aware it had been tested by MHRA and proven steroid free. However the risk are extreemly low to those who have used this on babies as its not been promoted for long enough to be administered for prolonged use. For long term use we are looking at more than a year where the risk becomes evident. These children are more at risk from secondary infections such as scepticema or worse, abuse from tired and frustrated parents sufferring from prolonged sleep deprevation (although a scary thought and before you all start shouting you could never do this, you are unable to state for certain without having experienced this, and it does happen)?

NICE contacted me and invited me to produce an editorial on treatment of eczema in children and alternative remedies for their Janruary publication which is recognition for the advice and work I have done in promoting natural treatments, one which they are now advising should be adopted by Healthcare professional. I have now decided this will be my last post on this community as I no longer feel the help and advice is welcome and will concentrate on my profiteering and promotion through my own sources.

By LA on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 08:46 am:

I'm not sure what you mean by check the contains - they are still selling OSAS - I believe that the MHRA said they would take appropriate action against all those still selling it.

I wonder if an email to them would be helpfully to let them know who is still selling it.

This is getting beyond a joke, anyone with an ounce of decenency in their body would take this product off the market until it is given the ok.

Be it on their conscious if this product causes any damage to those that have used it in good faith that it contains no steriods.

Brian, I didn't want to get personal on this but you need to take a good hard look at yourself, if you are still promoting this product as natural - do you live in the real world?

By BrianW on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 08:19 am:

O.K, yes eczemabodylotion.com is still up and running, but it just goes to say, you havent checked the content very well!! I suggest you take a closer look.

By Dom on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 07:49 am:

eczemabodylotion.com/

Looks to be still up to me.

By LA on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 07:41 am:

I agree with NAS here, Brian no one is saying anything about Aloe Vera, the problem we have is that you and others have been selling and promoting a cream as natural, when in fact it wasn't. Scaming people of their money and more importantly putting peoples health at risk.

Everyone knows that steriods need to be used in a controlled manner, but this product was being advertised at safe for children, people have been using this on childrens faces for goodness sake - and now they find out it is unsafe to do so, it is no wonder that many are upset, perhaps even scared at what effects they may have caused.

my question to you brian is - are you still promoting OSAS and standing by the fact it is steriod free?

By nas on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:41 pm:

sorry to all, i take back my last comment, unnecessary sarcasam.

i'm just very upset and annoyed about the whole thing. I had been using it on my baby and had recommended it to others as well.

By Nas on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:08 pm:

btw will NICE be recommending OSAS?

By nas on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:07 pm:

Brian

you seem to be missing the point here - NO ONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ALOE VERA PRODUCTS... It is the STEROIDS contained in ANY product (in this case for eczema) that claims to be steroid free.

By BrianW on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 10:58 pm:

I have been in contact today with NICE (National Institute for Clinical Excellence)nice.org.uk as this OSAS verdict is in danger of overshadowing the natural solutions for treating eczema. They have published a guidline for the first time on treating eczema in children for Healthcare professionals and parents. nice.org.uk/guidance/index.jsp?action=byID&o=11901 This publication recommends treatments which should be used in the management of eczema and recommends healthcare professionals should adopt a holistic approach to treating and specifically recommends the use of emollients. This hopefully should demonstrate our commitment to using aloe vera based products (of which OSAS was one) and we have been so keen to defend the use of aloe vera because we know this formula to be effective and would be very dissapointed to see people suffer when these treatments are available. This guide confirms our message on the treatment and management of eczema and I welcome it as some seem quick to criticise without knowledge or understanding. There is also a simple guide available as well as a more detailed copy intended for healthcare professionals.

By Emily on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 09:40 pm:

Hi there

Sorry to be unclear.

Austin Amendo is the manufacturer, yes.

He had absolutely nothing to do with the sample. I was reading a psoriasis forum and everyone was questionning whether there might be steroids and suggested that someone send a sample to a lab.

I posted to say that I would foot the bill for this as I wanted to confirm this either way once and for all (and was confident that it wouldn't contain steroids**)

I sourced a laboratory and asked the forum members to decide who would send their sample. The forum members agreed amongst them on a candidate to send his sample.

If Austin has intentionally put steroids into his formula, then yes, absolutely I have been lied to, and will take whatever action I can.

I have just checked the PAK'S website (a chain of shops in London which Austin sold directly to) and they are still selling online. Whether or not it has been removed from their shelves I do not know, but it looks like, from his website, there are many shops selling this lotion.

** the reasons I was confident it didn't contain steroids was:

a) Myself and my customers found that they could just use the lotion for a few days then stop using it with no flare ups.

b) I believe/d it to be the anti-fungal agent that was causing these amazing effects. There was research happening in the US showing its effectiveness and I thought Austin had found this first.

By LA on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 08:51 pm:

Emily,

Is Austin, the manufacturer?

I'm not sure if I am reading this right, but you asked him for the ingredients he wouldn't tell you.

You then sent him the sample and he sent it to the lab? or he told you what to ask the lab to check for?

Either way, him being involved means those tests should be null and void??

There are still sites selling OSAS, his and others linked to it.

I noticed what you put on yours emily and I think you did the right thing. From what you say it sounds like you have been lied to as well, I suppose when you want to find a cure for a family member it is easy to forget the bads things and believe this will be the answer.

By nas on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 06:22 pm:

finally on the bbc news website

//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7142841.stm

By Scamble on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 04:30 pm:

The moment at which he/they finally admitted OSAS contained a regulated antifungal was the point at which this product became illegal (I am advised).

Thus, this should have been off the shelves a long time ago (about 3 months if I remember correctly)

By Emily on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 04:03 pm:

One final thing because I feel like I'm being accused here of being in on a horrible scam:

It was me who first contacted the MHRA to ask if they knew what was in it and whether they could please investigate!

They e-mailed me with a list of things I would need to send them in order for them to test it. One of these included a list of the ingredients and exact quantities.

I asked Austin for this but obviously he didn't want to impart this info in case the recipe was copied. So I passed on the information to him and set to finding a laboratory who could test it.

All the while, I was convinced it didn't contain steroids, but pursued it in order to give my customers peace of mind.

I'm becoming (from the comments on here) more and more cynical now about this being an innocent mistake.

I wonder if all the shops listed on the osasone site have been informed and are no longer selling it... I'm surprised the MHRA hasn't been in touch with any of the sellers (including me).

By Emily on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:56 pm:

NO, I was not diluting it when applying to my daughter. I spread it fairly liberally several times a day and then by the following day it had always cleared. I would do the same approx every five weeks. I actually just did it about two days ago :-(

Scamble, my husband has got the certificate as I asked him to scan it at work so I had it to e-mail... however, the products that you have listed do NOT look familiar from the report.

I asked them to test for all corticosteroids as that's what they advised I needed to do. Most importantly the one that has been found IS one that they tested for.

I don't know the set up of the factory, but I know that they were producing 20,000 bottles at a time, so I presume that's a fairly big set up requiring more than just a vat that they poured things into.

Hopefully the MHRA will look into where it is/was manufactured.

By LA on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:38 pm:

that I don't know as I have only just found the site.

By Jimbob on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:34 pm:

Interesting that it gives this advice but does not mention the test results. It would be interesting to know if this information has always been on this site or if it was recently added.

Kelly

By LA on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:17 pm:

I have just been on the main site osasone.com
and went to the warnings pager - where it says this

"This product is specifically made for adults use; and if for any reason you choose to apply it on children, please further dilute with other neutral skincare product e.g. Vaseline Intensive care lotions"

Did you see this before Emily? When you were using it on your own child did you dilute it? because I don't remember seeing this warning or your own site?

By Scamble on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:11 pm:

Emily,

Having seen the results on the PHO page, I don't think you are wise to be so bold as to suggest they tested for all steroids...........

For example, where are the results for the following:

Aclomethasone
Mometasone Furoate (Elecon)
Fluticasone
Halobetasol
Diflorasone
Desoximetasone
Desonide
Clobetasol

All of which are available in topical formation.

I would also counsel caution in using the word miraculous.....

At the end of the day, the manufacturer deliberately (sorry accidently - don't make me laugh) forgot to mention (until pulled up on it) that OSAS contained Clotramizole, a regulated Azole antifungal. Given that the claims seem to now suggest that this was a key ingredient, why omit it (please don't try and convince us that this was purely accidental)

I bought some and stopped using it as soon as it was revealed that it contained the antifungal - not because I worried this in itself would do any harm, but because it was at this point that it became clear that it was possible any number of other chemicals could be in there too.

With regard your question about the varying levels of steroid - simple really, if you are preparing this stuff in a warehouse in a big vat and you pour the steroid in (with no quality control and no regulation to ensure consistency of ingredients) bottles will contain a whole variety of different levels, depending on how well the vat is mixed (from 0 up to far greater than 0.034%

As they say - Caveat Emptor

By Emily on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:11 pm:

Sorry, our posts crossed.

I have not spoken to the manufacturer. I wanted to get my facts directly from the MHRA first (ie quantities, whether this could be trace) as I know he will say there are no steroids and any trace of it must be due to cross contamination.

I want to have my facts to hand first.

However, his number is on his website should anyone wish to ask him.

By Emily on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:04 pm:

Forgot to say that they did test for that particular steroid and found it not to be contained within the cream.

Also, it was not sent by me but a member of a forum who was elected by the forum. He sent one of his bottles (he'd had four sent from me on his last order so it could have been any one of them.

I don't think it's fair to accuse the people selling the cream. How could I or any of the many shops selling it across the UK have possibly known this?

By the way, the manufacturer isn't some unknown faraway person. His website is osasone.com and he lives in East London. If the MHRA need to speak with him they shouldn't have any problems.

By LA on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:02 pm:

Emily,

have you spoke to the manufacturer yet - what are they/he saying about everything? It would be nice to know.

I'm glad you have pulled your site..

It is a real shame that is has all come to this, I was getting great results from OSAS and I raved about the cream - However I can not condon it if the customers buying it are being put at risk by the contents.. If you know there are steriods present then you can make your own mind up - but this looks like deception. I only hope that anyone who has been using it, especially children, do not experience any side effects or health problems because of it.

Brian - you keep going on about Aloe vera and the fact you are protecting it - I have no idea what you are talking about, again I ask you to post the email you recieved from MHRA - stating that OSAS was steriod free.
Also I hope you have pulled any sites that you run selling this product.

By Emily on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 02:51 pm:

I too thought it was very odd that two samples came back as steroid-free and then the other two were of varying amounts. How can it be intentionally manufactured that like if all the amounts are different?

I've put a call in to the people at the MHRA who actually tested it, just to get a bit of extra information.

In the meantime, I have changed my site to reflect the news.

Dom, I don't know where you have got your information from but I did no such thing. I called as many labs as I could find in the UK, until I got through to one who said they could test for steroids. They asked what I meant and what it was for.

I explained that it's a cream which is working miraculously for eczema and psoriasis so people were starting to wonder if it contained steroids. They said that would be corticosteroids and tested for all of them.

I have a letter from the lab (it's at an NHS hospital and I have no connections!)

Anyway, my website is changed and noone can buy from me.

By LA on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 02:22 pm:

Brian

Please can you post your results, so that I may see them for myself.

The first testing I have seen of this product was when a member of another forum I am member of sent it away.


Unfortunately this was a sample that emily gave him - now I am not accusing anyone of anything - but this sample came back showing no steriods. However it has since come to my attention, that only certain steriods where tested for - and this didn't include the one that MHRA have annouced.

here is a copy of the findings

.psoriasis-help.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19472.660.html

you may need to put the usual internet prefix before it, as you can't post it on the forum and scroll down.

However, MHRA have put out warnings against OSAS because it does contain steriods - I believe they tested a sample sent in by a derm..

Thoughts have arisen that the manufacturer was mixing the cream with the steriods and that is why is worked for some and not others, each bottle has a different level of steriod in it.

To finish, if I was in your position. ie potentially selling this products to people to use on children when it is harmful - I would be chasing the manufacturer to get the truth and also doing what I could to stop the sale of it.

By BrianW on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 01:47 pm:

Nas, I give up, the point you all seem to be missing is that I'm protecting the Aloe Vera formula for use in treating dry skin conditions and the fact that this wasn't a scam. I have the email from MHRA which confirms the product to be steroid free when I started to market this. I have also made that info available on this site. I welcome the authorities getting involved and I hope they contact me as you all seem content on being judge, jury and executioner. I also have emails to support my post? So I'm glad you find it hilarious as I find it rather sad, but than when your dermatologist or GP prescribes your daughter medication, I can only hope that works for you?

By LA on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 01:27 pm:

it now looks like emily has pulled her site, at least that is something positive.

By nas on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 12:10 pm:

BrianW you amaze me! indeed, i have to laugh out loud whilst reading your latest post.

I purchased the cream and used it with amazing results. Prior to that, i had requested a pedatriac demotologist to see my daugthers skin as it was really bad due to the eczema, by the time i had the appointment her skin had cleared and i showed the cream to my dermotologist. He had recognised the cream and had said that other patients had said the same thing as me. He voiced his concern that it may contain steroids as there had been such products in the past claiming to be 100 percent natural and non steroid, but indeed have contained steroids (eg. Wau wa cream, Abeido cream). He then sent this bottle to the mrha for testing - this was in early September. Now if he had a connection with the lab as you clim he would have got the results back much sooner.

NOW THIS IS THE REALLY IMPORTANT PART SO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION: when the results came back positive for steroids, the mrha said that they need to do a PURCHASE TEST - whereby they themselves purchase a bottle and test it. Only when THAT comes back positive will they make anykind of announcement.

I have NO connection whatsoever with the MRHA Lab, my dermotologist does not have any connection with the lab or with osas - (unlike yourself who has an obvious money making connection in promoting osas).

You speak of these other tests, where is the evidence of this? If that is so, why no comment from the mrha???

You obviously want to continue making money which is why you are trying to deny that osas may contain any kind of steroid -PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS PRODUCT HAS BEEN USED ON BABYIES SKIN - and bear this in mind before you continue to rubbish the test results.

You should have a conscience and stop this denial now.

By LA on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:33 am:

I would love to hear what the manufacturer has to say as well, emily is trying to contact them too...

my guess, they have probably done a runner with all the money they have made with this miracle cure!

Scam and fraud - indeed. You advertised this as steriod free and it is not - you took peoples money and didn't provide the goods you were advertising - A steriod free cream.

You have put peoples health at rish, you should have the book thrown at you.

This seems to be hitting the headlines now and hopefully we get the outcome we deserve, legal action.

By BrianW on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:29 am:

Well, well, I'm amazed that contributions like LA can claim this is a scam and a fraud??? I guess its because they remain anonymous!!
Lets be clear the first test done back in March of this year by the MHRA found the product to be steroid free. I would like to know where the samples came from as I think the person who supplied them has a family connection with the Lab and has unnaturally pursued this on a quest to disprove the product? Therefore these test aren't as independent as first identified. Now I'm all for compliance and will adhere to the MHRA guidlines. But I have doubts and have been in contact with the manufacture to allow them their say.

By LA on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 10:28 am:

Just wanted to add my tuppence worth - I have been using OSAS, after hearing about it on another forum, and it was promoted by emily.

I am now shocked to hear of what has happened, especially since I have recommended this product.

Emily,I notice that your website is still up and running and there is no mention of what has been happening. Also I left a comment on your guestbook, but this hasn't posted either.

I hope that those that have been promoting it, Emily, and I think brian, will now put people right and take your websites down. I also hope that you will give up the person behind this scam, providing their names to the correct authorites and that action is taken.

The person behind this is a fraud and legal action needs to be taken, people have put their health at risk because of their/your claims.

Scam artists are cruel people, and when it's not just about money it's about people's well being, including many children, they need to pay.

By nas on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 10:12 am:

it would be good to hear a response frm the manufacturer.

regarding the sample tested by the mrha, upon receiving the results from the sample sent by the dermotologist, i was informed that they need to do a 'Purchase Test' whereby they independently purchase the product and test it. Then if that proved to contain the same results, then they would take action.

I thought this would take months to do but it appears not so.

By BrianW on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 08:19 am:

Well a rather disapointing verdict for OSAS. I have contacted the manufacturers and asked them for a statement as I have been reassured all along of the fact that OSAS does not contain steriods. These results state differently.

I accept the MHRA's verdict without question and as already stated, I believe in the Aloe Vera formula for treating this condition and will offer an alternative product? Like Emily, I'm surprised at these results as earlier test by the same organisation (MHRA) proved negative. Therefore I'm dissapointed for all those that sufferers. Anyway, there is an alternative using similar ingredients which should help just as well. However, do not think this is the end, I know the manufactures have been adament over there statement on no steroids, and the samples provided to the MHRA came from a medical practitioner. I have no reason to believe why they should contaminate the product, but based upon previous test, something doesnt add up here? Either the manufacture is unaware (which is rather worrying) or worse, not being honest, or these steroids have been introduced after manufacture? However I believe its now up to the manufacture to prove their product is free of steroids before I continue to market this product.

By Dom on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 09:30 pm:

Emily

As far as I can tell you only asked your people to test for certain steroids, not for any steroids at all hence their result.

By nas on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 09:12 pm:

news is travelling fast
//ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gGEkCfM854qJv8MC0zrn7XTGRAgA

the amount of steroids... or rather the potency of the amount of steroids must be quite high.

By Emily on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 07:24 pm:

I have just seen this and I am absolutely shocked. I cannot understand why the laboratory sent me a completely 'clear of steroids' verdict. I can only assume that that particular bottle happened not to contain any, like one of the samples the MHRA tested.

I started to sell this lotion because it worked like a miracle, and although someone said 'wasn't it obvious?' - I strongly believed (and still do) that it was the Clotrimazole (anti-fungal agent) that was having the miraculous effect. Universities in the US are just beginning to discover the effectiveness of Clotrimazole in clearing eczema.

Anyway, my point is that I have used this on my daughter, every five weeks or so, whenever her eczema started to show again, so you can be sure that I had no idea this product contained any trace of steroids.

It leaves me at a loss as to what to do with her eczema now. I must say though that I have never experienced any flare ups in stopping using it - as I say I put it on a couple of times for a couple of days, every five weeks.

OF COURSE I will not continue to market it as a natural, steroid free product - it is not!

My intention is to speak to the MHRA tomorrow to confirm the facts for myself, and also for advice. I would also like to know where their samples came from. As I said, the lab a bottle I sold was sent to came back as completely steroid free - and they did test for all corticosteroids.

If their findings (that of the MHRA) are conclusive then I will do everything I can to spread the word NOT to buy this product and to make sure especially that no babies are using it. This will include changing my whole website to share the facts with everyone.

Brian, I hope you will be doing the same.

I feel as strongly about this as I did about promoting it in the first place.

I am sorry for all the disappointed people who thought, as I did, that they had finally found a natural, effective solution to their or their child's eczema.

By nas on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 02:52 pm:

more from mrha

mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&useSecondary=true&ssDocName=CON2033358&ssTargetNodeId=389

By newbie on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 02:03 pm:

nothing from brian or emily on this?

will they continue to sell the product as 100%natural and steriod free?

By nas on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 01:42 pm:

thanks for that link kelly

nas

By nas on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 01:37 pm:

osas did help clear my daugthers facial eczema which was raw and weeping, so for that i will honestly say i'm glad i came across it. when the dermotologisted alerted me to it, we stopped and used euomovate - only when necessary, fortunatly her face has not flared up as it was before using osas.

the steroid used in prescribed ointments and osas are not the same and greatly differ in potency.
Surley no one is suprised considering the super fast results that osas was giving?

my nephews eczema was cleared using just aquaous cream and natural aloe vera gel (using the gel from an aloe vera leaf)- i'm going to try just the gel and let you know, though i must say her eczema is kept at bay through her diet.

if people are using osas regulary, i would have thought weaning off would be better than stopping completly in one go?

By Jimbob on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:42 pm:

Here is a link to a potency table that states that Betamethasone dipropionate is a high potency steroid. This is the one that was found in OSAS. It shows 2 different strenghs 0.05% and 0.025% and both are classed as high potency. So the figures that BrianW gave definately do not meant there is only trace amounts as far as I am concerned.

vhpharmsci.com/VHFormulary/Tools/Topical-steroid-potency.htm

Kelly

By Jimbob on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:25 pm:

I really wish the outcome had been different as there are obviously a lot of people that have used this product with success. We have used eumovate on my sons skin in the past and that is 0.05% in strengh and we were advised not to use it on my sons face as it is too strong for facial use. I wanted to point this out as this was the strengh that was found in one of the samples and BrianW was trying to say that it is only trace amounts which I believe is sending the wrong message.

Kelly

By nas on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 10:09 pm:

I know what you mean. I wish the result was different (i.e. steroid free) cos my daugthers skin was gleeming when i was using osas... and now we know why!

By Dom on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 07:54 pm:

Thanks for that Nas. That's a fairly damning statement. The words "unlicensed" and "available on the internet" stick out for me.

By nas on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 07:50 pm:

it's offical on the mrha website....

mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&useSecondary=true&ssDocName=CON2033349&ssTargetNodeId=663

By emma r on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 12:18 pm:

How can any manufacturer be so irresponsible when it comes to something as serious to steroids......i find that quite shocking!

By Emily on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 07:58 pm:

Yes, absolutely I agree - if there is any trace of steroid, no matter how small, it needs to be made clear.

If it is just trace then I guess the manufacturer would have been unaware of it... until now.

I shall make a phone call to the MHRA myself and update my website with whatever they tell me.

By Jen on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:15 pm:

I agree whole heartedly with Dom.

By Dom on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:02 pm:

As you say best to wait for the official verdict from MHRA. However, it would seem that there are traces of steroids (albeit small) so you can't say there are NO steroids in it. If it's cross contamination then they need to say so (like the nut people do)or alternatively manufacture it somewhere else.

By Emily on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 08:09 pm:

Hi all

Like Brian, I sell OSAS lotion. After it worked quickly for my baby I was keen to get involved. I was convinced it didn't contain steroids because I only needed to use it once every 5 or 6 weeks and it never flared up when I stopped as it did with steroid creams.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I had the lotion tested a couple of months ago, by a laboratory. The sample was sent off by a customer who was elected by a forum. The laboratory tested for Betamethasone Phosphate, Dexamethasone, Betamethasone Valerate and Beclomethasone. Their conclusion was that 'no steroids were observed in the product'.

As you can imagine, it cost me quite a bit of money to get it tested but hopefully it goes to prove we believe in the product and that noone is trying to con anyone here.

Of course, everyone is perfectly right to await official results by the MHRA, and I would do the same.

Strangely, my doctor prescribed my daughter a steroid cream (Hydrocortisone 0.1%) for her face, which I used before I found OSAS. However, it never did work for her!

By BrianW on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 02:49 pm:

Hi Ickle,
I agree people should wait for the official verdict, the only doubt though although the test are inconclusive at this point in time is whether it is safe for babies? I think the point has been made with the results so far that for adults and children it is safe. The alternative is to use a prescribed treatment from your GP or Dermatologist which is more likely to contain over 1% of a steroid.

The point I'm trying to make is that this should prove its not a scam or trying to get rich quick off of peoples sufferring that has been suggested in earlier post. Therefore there is merit in the Aloe formula which is what I have attempted to prove and in my quest to offer a natural relief to those that do suffer from this condition.

By Ickle on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 01:55 pm:

Thanks Brian. I have also had correspondance from the MHRA which is indentical to Tim's. It would appear that there is on going invesitagation where the results will be made public. I would assume that most people will wish to wait for these as opposed to a personal communication (not to discredit any information supplied by yourself) but it would appear that the MHRA are stating that thier current results are not concluisve as of yet. Best wishes

Ickle

By BrianW on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 01:24 pm:

O.K I have the results direct from the MHRA Herbal Policy Unit of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency.

The MHRA have tested 3 samples of this product. Results of the tests have shown that all the products contained Clotrimazole; two samples at 0.05% 1 at 0.04%. Further two of the samples (tested in November 2007) contained Betamethasone dipropionate; 1 sample 0.034%, 1 sample 0.009% . 1 sample (tested in March 2007) was determined to be steroid free.

I do not know of the source of these samples, however having spoken to the manufactures who claim OSAS contains No Steroids state that these volumes are very low traces, which could be contamination from the manufacturing process similar to those warnings for Nut traces in chocolate and food products.

Therefore based on these findings it would appear that OSAS shouldn't be recommended for use on babies due to these trace elements, But is perfectly safe for children and adults. Although there are alternative products such as FLP Aloe products which are safe and contain similar ingredients to that of OSAS and have accreditations which can be used on Babies.

If anyone wants a copy of the email or other info than feel free to email me...

Regards.

By tim on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:42 am:

After reading the glowing reviews for the OSAS cream on the forums, I also recently started applying it to my psoriasis. I have spoken with the MHRA this morning, who will no doubt be getting several calls over this. They informed me that, "nothing has been concluded", and that as soon as any results are confirmed they will be posted on their website. They advised me to sign up to their email notifications in order to receive information as soon as it is available.

I would agree with Ickle that it's a question of waiting until these results are available.

By nas on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 02:47 pm:

I'm just passing on knowledge that i myself have found useful. I know these results are genuine and i have nothing to gain by making this stuff up.

It's up to anyone if they want to take this info on board or if they choose to ignore it - i dont lose out either way. I was just passing on info that i myself found useful.

By Ickle108 on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 02:09 pm:

In my work we reguarly use the advice from the MHRA. I would suggest that people wait for the publication of the evidence on their webiste unless anyone can provide written evidence prior to this.

By BrianW on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 06:44 pm:

Dom,

I believe in the Aloe Vera properties and brought this to the attention of eczema sufferers as an alternative treatment after discovering for myself how effective it is. There is no loyalty to OSAS, I know of other products containg similar ingredients to that published by OSAS discovered through extensive research. The reason why OSAS is so attractive is its cost and value for money. The alternative products are twice the price, although they do come with money back guarentees. No one will be more dissapointed than I if OSAS were found to contain illegal properties. I will try to find out more information from MHRA as I think there is a concern that needs a definitive answer. I have a loose link with OSAS as a supplier which came about from my IT skills in being able to promote the benefits of this formula to the wider community. Whatever is discovered over the next few days from the MHRA I urge you to not give up on the Aloe Vera formula as this does work and is perfectly safe. I know this for a fact and its well documented.

By Dom on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 05:27 pm:

Brian - I don't know who to believe but do you have a connection with OSAS. Your email address suggests you do.

By BrianW on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 03:30 pm:

Naz,

Please let me know your dermatologist details, I have spoken with MHRA and they confirmed OSAS is STEROID FREE. I even have the Head of Medicines contact name, otherwise just contact their central enquiry line on telephone number below and they will confirm. I appreciate your only trying to help, but in fact you are adding to peoples sufferring by suggesting this is a scam

By BrianW on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 03:13 pm:

NAS, not sure where you have got your information from but you are wrong!!! OSAS DOES NOT CONTAIN STEROIDS, if you really want confirmation. MHRA did test the product last month and was found to be STEROID FREE, so stop scaremongering. If you want the individuals name, personal email me and I can supply this? MHRA can be contacted on 020 7084 2000 or info@mhra.gsi.gov.uk for confirmation.

By nas on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 10:12 pm:

there is nothing on the website as the results just came back last week. The have to do another test called a purchase test which will take another 3 months i guess.

My dermotologist sent the cream into the mrha so i contacted them quite regularly. If you call the mrha and ask to speak to someone in the medicines testing scheme and/or explain that you would like to know whether osas contains steroids, someone should be able to help you.

By emma r on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 09:14 pm:

I cant believe another bloomin scam, taking advantage of peoples suffering, unbelievable

By Jen on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 08:50 pm:

Nas, how did you get the information? I can't find anything on the mrha website. Other forums are confirming it doesn't contain steroids. Thanks.

By Jimbob on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 08:04 pm:

Thank you for posting that information. We did not have a problem getting neocate prescribed as it was his consultant that wanted him on it so the GP did not argue. Children can still react to foods that have only given low IGE scores. James's number was very low for wheat when first tested but his reactions are not. Having said that if your daughter does not like the taste of the wysoy then not likely that she would like neocate either as it taste and smells worse.

Kelly

By nas on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 01:20 pm:

Hi

Just got off the phone from my dermotologist, he confirmed that it IS a strong steroid and the product really shouldnt be used, esp on the face.

really sad news as i was hoping to use it again if it was a mild steroid. It's not jsut the steroid that is of concern, but also the quantity.

Just thought i'd let you all know.

By nas on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:11 am:

very similar to james actually. Intisar's eczema was due to her food allergies, we have cut out all dairy, eggs and nuts for both our diets (i am breast feeding her) and her skin has improved. it took a while to stabilaise after stopping osas but it's much clearer now.

her milk allergy is severe and although she has a soya allergy, the doctor said its a low number on the ieg (blood tests) so will only perscribe soya (wysoy) which she will not touch - i just use it in her cereal.

i'm hoping to speak to my dermotologist this week.

By Jimbob on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 07:23 am:

James's eczema looks good but that is because he is still not eating apart from his neocate and raisins. James's eczema is very much food related although he does react to enviromental things aswell just not as severe.

How is your daughter?

Kelly

By Dom on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 06:12 pm:

Thanks Nas.

What their website says below:

99.94% natural ingredients and 0.04% Clotrimazole which is an anti-fungal agent commonly used for conditions such as athlete's foot, nappy rash and thrush. The remaining 0.02% comprises preservatives (Parabens), emulsifiers (Stearate) and bactericides (Phenoxyethanol).

By nas on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 05:43 pm:

they ae using it on babies too - as i was.

i dont know how serious or dangerious the contained steriods are and if they just left out of ingredients due to licencing laws and stuff.

just thought i'd let you know as some people are using it cos they dont want to use steroids.

i hope to speak to my demotologist, but he is very difficult to get hold of.

how is your son?

By Jimbob on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 05:38 pm:

I know the results people were reporting were to good for a product that does not contain steroids. I really hate companies that make fantastic claims about products and claim they are steroid free. Lots of people trust these companies because they are so desperate to find something that works.

By nas on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 05:27 pm:

mrha results back, osas DOES contain steroids, it was found to contain:
0.05% Clotrimazole and 0.034% Betamethasone dipropionate.

dont think that is as bad as dermovate, but it's a steroid none the less. I dont know the signifance of this, will let you know more when i get hold of my dermotologist.

just thought i'd share the info.

By emmar on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 09:26 pm:

thanks nas

By nas on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:49 pm:

just to let you know the results of the osas testing will be out in a couple of weeks...

By ItchyCarole on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 07:37 pm:

Hi everyone. I never knew this site existed until today. I'm 37 and have had eczema all of my life. It seemed to really clear up over the last couple of years and I thought I'd finally almost got rid of it. However, winter has arrived and so has my eczema! I have scratched myself to pieces, especially my forehead and neck! I have tried so many creams over the years, and I confess that I do use steroid creams on my face every now and then! I called my mom today and she said about Calendula Cream as she used to use this on both myself and my sister (who still suffers badly with eczema at 39). I did a search on google and found this site. Eczema is such a bind - and the worst thing is when someone says 'stop scratching it'! Have they ever felt like they've been put in a bag of itching powder. I'm afraid I've also gone back on to an old stock of Telfast 120 to stop the itching - not good! My heart goes out to all sufferers - I think living in a sunny country would do us all the world of good! I haven't really got anything useful to say - I just wanted to join the group regarding something I know, and hate, so much! Am off to cut my nails off now! x

By Dom on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 05:33 pm:

Thanks for the info Nas. I'm just an interested party who's had skin problems in the past but which is now thankfully controllable. It will be interesting to see what the MHRA say. I know in the past I've spent hours researching various creams off the web and as you say it's a risky thing to do.

By nas on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:55 am:

hi Dom

i was using osas upon personal recommendation for about a month on my daugther who had very bad ezcema on her face (it was raw and weeping with her constantly scratching). It worked immediatly adn within 3 days completly cleared up.

i told this to my pediatric dermotologist and he advised me against using it. He said other people had mentioned this product to him and he suspects it's a scam - as there had in the past been many other 'herbal' scams (abido/wau wau cream etc).

He gave a few pointers that indicate whether a product could have a hidden steriod (and by steriod, i mean the very potent one that would not be legally sold in such lotions)

- when the cream works right away - that's a sign of a strong steroid
- when the cream cannot be brought in a pharmasist, only online or african beauty shops. Note that NONE of the listed shops are actually pharmasis.
- also these scams tend to by from nigerian bases (which osas is).

I'm aware euroderm tested the product, i had contacted them and they would only confirm that they did a 'patch test', but that they did not in anyway analyse the contents of OSAS. We know that osas works on ezcema, so a patch test by euroderm is basically redundant, what we need is confirmation that the product dosent contain any steroids.

i'm only posting this info to help and let others in similar situation to me be aware - it's very frightening if you are putting that on a babys face as i was, and then finding out that the product contained a very potent steroid.

If you are dependant on it, perhaps you could ween your baby off it by gradually using fewer applications?

By emma r on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 10:00 am:

I suppose its just a waiting game now, im really interested what will be found by MRHA.

By Jimbob on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 08:14 pm:

I would also be questioning the ingredients if it really works as quickly and effectively as people have reported.

By Dom on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 02:33 pm:

Not questioning you Nas but what makes you think there's an unlisted ingredient. On their website they account for all the ingredients.

Good that it's been checked by the MHRA. They seem to have 2 websites one of which lists stockists, noticeably no major stockists, only small scale pharmacies. They say it's been checked by an organisation called Eurodermreserach whoever they are.

I'd be wary of using any cream where the main sales point is web based. MHRA frequently warns against buying medical products off the web.

By nas on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 02:00 pm:

these are the listed ingredients, the issue here is the fact that there is a suspected unlisted ingredient, namley a steriod called dermovate.

This is the opinion that has been passed on from dermotologist, hence the product is currently being analysed by the MRHA to determine its content, if any.

Unfortunately it's a waiting game for the results to come through, only time will tell.

By dom on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 10:13 am:

FULL INGREDIENTS INCLUDING THE ELUSIVE 0.02%

The main ingredient in OSAS lotion is Aloe Vera – a herbal preparation which has long been known for its soothing properties for irritated skin. It is mild enough to use frequently and for babies.

OSAS™ body lotion is a specially formulated skin moisturising lotion with 99.94% natural ingredients and 0.04% Clotrimazole which is an anti-fungal agent commonly used for conditions such as athlete's foot, nappy rash and thrush. The remaining 0.02% comprises preservatives (Parabens), emulsifiers (Stearate) and bactericides (Phenoxyethanol). OSAS cream soothes and protects skin against most skin infections. See below for list of ingredients.

By Ickle108 on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 10:07 am:

If in doubt or you have any concerns about any product I would ask a GP or a dermatoligst they should be more than happy to help and professionals work to evidence based practice.

For information

The list of ingredients for OSAS is as follows:

Aqua, Kosher veg, Glycerin, Sweet Almond, Jojoba, Palm Stearic Acid, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) juice, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Vitamin E Acetate, Clotrimazole, Phenoxy, Ethanol, PEG-100 Stearate, Glyceryl Stearate, Isobutyl/ Methyl/ Propyl Parabens, Fragrance.


The desciprition given is:

OSAS™ body lotion is a specially formulated skin moisturizing lotion with 99.94% natural ingredients. The remaining 0.06% is made up of very effective active ingredients allowing for regular use, to soothe and protect your skin against most skin infections.

The active ingredients in OSAS lotion is Aloe Vera – a herbal preparation which has long been known for its soothing properties for irritated skin, and Clotrimazole - an anti-fungal agent which is often used to treat such conditions as athlete's foot, nappy rash and thrush.

By Dom on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 06:32 pm:

Do a google for Osas cream and you'll find ALL the ingredients. I did put a link up but they've taken it down. They obviously can't discriminate between a helpful link and a marketing ploy.

By Dom on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 05:08 pm:

I'd find out what some of those ingredients are as quite often nasty stuff can be hidden just by calling it a different name. Personally, I wouldn't use it as it has fragrance in it.

By Ickle108 on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 02:39 pm:

Hi
My Friend recommended Osas cream to me, she's been using it for her cirrhosis and its done wonders. I've been using it for a month or so on my eczema and I must admit although its not completely clear its a lot better and my hands are softer. Her GP said it was basically just moisturiser and there was nothing in it that would help but to keep using it is she thought it worked. I've given some to my granda for his cirrhosis and his skin is better. I'm intrigued by the content now after reading these posts so if anyone has any clues please advise. I'm a health services researcher and must admit I'd never heard of it before or can find anything written about it especailly on the MHRA. However I'm just about to order some more, it works for me and after suffering for years and not finding anything except steriods that work I think i'll keep going with it, its not making it any worse like some creams (Nivea etc)and it certainly sooths the itching. It no fun scrathcing all day long and it drives my partner and family mad so if something helps well I'm happy (and them too!). However, I note with children I too would have concerns and as adults you can make that descision for yourself but with chidren perhaps err on the side of caution until there is more evidence?

By nas on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 11:34 pm:

i've heard some stuff about msm - has anyone tried it?

By emma r on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 02:34 pm:

Ive never used the osas and never would, but im worried about people i know to be using it on their babies. I did email someone regarding the cream as to what the other 0.02% of ingrediants were and got no reply! I will email MRHA as well. I must admit my sons skin was so bad at one point i was tempted by the osas, but something told me not to. Hope you get to see an allergist soon Nas. Let us know how things go

By nas on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 11:08 am:

thanks

so far she is allergic to milk, soy, egg white, peanuts and other tree nuts, i'm waiting to see an allergist.

re osas, agree with jimbob, esp after all the concern. i've contacted the MRHA re testing the cream, i think if enough people contact them, it may well speed up the testing of the cream?

By Jimbob on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 08:41 am:

I would not use it unless I knew all the ingredients.

By emma r on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 03:00 pm:

The below is a product description of Osas cream, and im concerned as to what the final 0.02% of ingrediants are ??? Any one??

OSAS body lotion is a specially formulated skin moisturizing lotion with 99.94% natural ingredients, the main active ingredient is ALOE BARBADENSIS (Aloe Vera) with 0.04% Clotrimazole to supplement or boost the effective properties. It is specially formulated to soothe and protect your skin against most skin infections and recurring skin infections like thrush, eczema, dermatitis, psoriasis and symptoms of dry skin (itching, scales, flakes, tight, red, rough and dryness of skin) thus leaving a silky smooth and adorable skin.

By emma r on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 01:59 pm:

The callendulla cream helped the skin repair itself really well, i did get some chickweed cream but have never had to use it.......i think it helps more with relieving the itching.

Have you considered that your daughter may be allergic to other things? My son is allergic to milk, gluten, wheat, tomatoes, and he cant have egg either. All These things make him flare up. His skin is compleetly clear now and you'd never know he was covered in eczema/urticaria. I have the scary task of trying him with some of these foods when hes 1 and im really dreading it I never want him to go through anything like he had to when he was so tiny.

Sorry im waffling on now.....ask your gp to refer you to see if there is any more help you can get. An allergy specialist perhaps?? Keep us updated, id like to know how you all get on! Wishing you good luck and i hope you make some progress soon with sorting your babies eczema

By nas on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 12:18 pm:

thanks emma

i've had a look at the website, do you use the Callendulla and chickweed or jsut the Callendulla?

my daugthers ezcema is flaring up again, even though i've cut out dairy from her diet. I've an appointment with the gp and i'm going to ask to be pescribed neocate formula. I will really miss breast feeding but she always seems to flare up after each feed.

It's such a shame, whilst using osas, her skin was crystal clear and she slept peacefully, since i stopped using it, she hasnt slept for more than 4 hrs. Although her face is not as bad as before osas, it's now progressevely starting to get worse.

how much of a difference did the Callendulla cream make?

btw, it's good you didnt use goats infant formula, the department of health recommend that it is not used for babies as it may contain the same protien as cows milk.

By Jimbob on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 08:01 pm:

James is on an amino acid base formula called neocate. There is also one called elecare but not sure if thats available in the UK if that is where you live. I go on a US site so that is where I have heard it from.

By emma r on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 02:13 pm:

hi nas,

If you type "bay house aromatics" in to google it is the first link that comes up. Its called callendula base cream.

You can get an amino acid based formula milk, i am not aware of its name though. Ask your doctor and you can get it on perscription

We tried my our son on goats milk formula andhe was just as allergic to that as he is cows milk.

By michaelegg on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 05:06 pm:

hello everyone
haven't been on this site before. my daughter has eczema and it was pretty bad through the winter and spring months of this year particularly.
a friend of mine it using osas on his son presently and will pass on the "possible" concerns raised on this forum.
we were lucky enough to be in australia and picked up what was said to be an natural moisturiser. it is called "baby coconut silk". it has worked for our daughter very well. we now continue to use it and have it brought in for her personal use (i believe mhra won't allow third party sales without a marketing authorisation).
It has been tested by the australian version of the mhra.
we believe it to good cream. they also have a lighter bath wash that works in conjunction with it.
if you are interested the website is bellenaturalskincare.com.au
the lady's name is belinda riley.
it's quite pricey when you add on the delivery charges and vat. but we like it.

i only found this website as i was researching into osas for another friend. i don't like the idea of thinning skin .
regards to all

By nas on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 06:10 pm:

btw she is now 8 months old

By nas on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 06:09 pm:

emma, where can you get this cream?

Intisar developed eczema after the 3rd round of injections which included the men c jab, after a week of being unwell she reacted to all dairy foods - we've had her tested and she is allergic to cows milk (grade 4 in rast test), eggs and nuts (grade3) and soya (grade 2).

her eczema got really bad before using the osas, it's not as bad as before but she still has breakouts even though we are controlling her diet (and consequently mine as i'im breast feeding). We have to use soemthing on her face otherwise the eczema and itching wont stop.

is anyone aware of and infant formula that is dairy and soya free? the dep of health dosent recommend goats infant formula.

By emma r on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 08:34 am:

Hi Nas, i just use a simple Callendulla base cream. He only ahas two tiny patches on his back at the moment which is fantastic.........as he was covered from head to toe in a very ugly welty rash at one point

His eczema and urticaria is connected to food allergies, and the Callendula cream helps in the healing process of the skin, only because we found the root cause of his eczema and cut those foods out.

How old is your daughter if you dont mind me asking? How are things going with her eczema?

By Jimbob on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 12:36 pm:

We were told that even eumovate was still to strong to use on James's face when he was a year old.

By nas on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 11:35 am:

emma r

what are you using on your son>

i've been perscribed emovate for the face of baby, i know it contains low level steroid.

By emma r on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 12:52 am:

thanks lizard woman, ive kept to what i know so far, and avoided any miricle cream for my son (9months)even though they are so so tempting at some points! Best of luck to you, keep fighting you can win

By lizardwoman on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:48 pm:

Hi guys,
i was using dermovate for a couple of years...it's incredibly potent and now i have very thin skin. one of the nurses where i have UV treatment said the veins in my arms are a phlebotomist's dream(!) due to paper thin skin. i'd steer clear of this osas stuff just in case and, if possible, always avoid using steroids on the face

By emma r on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 07:31 pm:

Just googled Dermovate, scary stuff! Not to be used on kids under 1 year, i pray it isnt in the osas cream as i know people using it on babies

By emma r on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 07:25 pm:

thanks nas i will google that steroid too! Hope to hear something soon...........ive not used it on my son but i know of afew people who use it and it and would just like to know 100% if its genuine.

By nas on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 04:53 pm:

it's currently being analysed by the MRHA, i wonder if weed had had any feed back yet?

i used it on my daugther as her skin got so bad it was weeping and non stop scratching. It healed pretty quickly but i was told by pediatric dermotologist to stop as it is suspected to contain steroids, i have since stopped using it and am using a perscribled cream. fortunatly the skin has not gone back to what it was before, though she still has outbreaks. i'm waiting for the all clear from the MRHA before using the cream again.

the steriod that it is suspected to contain is Dermovate which contains clobetasol propionate - search up on the net to find out how potent it is.

By Jen on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 08:37 pm:

Susan it's semms logical to simply google it.

By Searching Suzie on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 08:04 pm:

Where do you purchase this Osas Cream? I have just tuned in to this web site and I am probably getting in on the tail end of a conversation, but it sounds like it is worth a try.

By emma r on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:59 pm:

Aqua, Kosher veg, Glycerin, Sweet Almond, Jojoba, Palm Stearic Acid, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) juice, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Vitamin E Acetate, Clotrimazole, Phenoxy, Ethanol, PEG-100 Stearate, Glyceryl Stearate, Isobutyl/ Methyl/ Propyl Parabens, Fragrance.

the above is the list of ingrediants that are in the osas cream, that i have found

By emma r on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:57 pm:

hi weed, any news from the lab about the osas cream? i have trawled the web and found nothing negative about it so far....

It really makes me angry seeing to see the number of so called "miricle creams" that actually contain steroids they are taking advantage of peoples suffering, it makes me sick!!

By brianw on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 03:15 pm:

Hi Weed,

We have no control over the manufacturer of osas and the ingredients used. We suggested the use of this cream as it was the most natural we could find and wanted to share this following our own independent research, although we do know of similar products which use similar ingredients, however these are more costly. As this is a self help site, this is not the forum for us to promote such products. If you are interested they can email me ghost over my name for email address.

By Weed on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 01:02 pm:

Hi Brian,

I was just wondering if there are natural alternatives to the clotrimazole and parabens in the osas? I know that calendula is a mild anti-fungal - perhaps there are stronger natural anti-fungals? Also, my concern over parabens - are there any natural preservatives that could have been used? I do love what this cream has done for my daughter's skin and would love it if all the ingredients were natural (I do appreciate that the greater part of the cream is natural 99.4% I believe?) And I love the fact that this cream harnesses the great natural power of Aloe.

I did in the end outweigh the gains over using this cream over my concerns about parabens and it has provided her with so much relief!


Weed

By brianw on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:20 am:

Hi Nas, some chemist shops do stock the product, however most pharmacy outlets are supplied by the two big drug distributors Lloyds and Uni Chem, becomming a preferred supplier to these organisations takes a lot of effort and cost which this small manufacturer is unable to invest. Also the big boys like to dictate their terms which are not always in the interest of the suppliers or consumers needs. AAH is the other big national distributor but focuses mainly on hospital supplies and the two big companies. I believe the other independent medical supplier McCarthy was swallowed up by one of the two big companies. As the NHS concentrate on prescibed mediciines and not over the counter products it is difficult to get doctors to prescibe alternative treatments. Have you ever had a doctor prescribe acupuncture or herbal cures, not often? Nowadays although medicines and drugs can be very effective in treating ailments, long term use often involves side effects for patients which could lead to increased intolerances causing further allergies. Consequently more consumers and scientist are turning back to natural therapies which have long been neglected. OSAS is one of these products which as already mentioned relies on the extracts of the Aloe plant which has been used for over 500 years. Therefore there is no voodoo involved or secret ingredients. I'm only happy that people find it a great relief and it does work for a lot of sufferers as that was our intention when introducing this to the eczema community.
Regards.

By BrianW on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 05:21 pm:

Please be reassurred that osas Intense Body Lotion contains no known steroid, it relies purely on the healing qualities of the Aloe plant and contains a minute amount of Clotrimazole as an anti fungal to fight infections, most of the other ingredients are used as a binder to help prevent seperation of the ingredients over time, preservatives and provide an exceptable aroma. The product is produced under EU guidlines and controls that meet current legislation.
Thank you.

By Weed on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 02:32 pm:

Hi Nas,

I'm so sorry to hear that. I was told that steroid creams usually mean that the eczema comes back straight away after use whereas with the osas it does not??

I've only been using it for about 10days on my daughter. I'm just waiting for the lab results about steroid content before I commit to buying another one.
The cream I mentioned is called "Organic Chickweed & Calendula cream" and it can be found at earthbound.co.uk I can't put the full website address here as it won't allow me to put the www at the front. The earthbound organics stuff is wonderful! And the creams are all handmade.

By Weed on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:46 pm:

Hi Geeta,

I thought you might find this information on the main groups of eczema useful:

# Atopic: the ‘allergic’ type often seen in people who also have hay fever or asthma.

# Allergic contact: due to skin contact to a substance to which the individual is sensitive. The same substance does not cause eczema in a person who is not sensitive to it.

# Irritant contact: due to skin contact with irritating chemicals, powders, cleaning agents, etc. Contact with such a substance is likely to cause eczema in any person, although a degree of individual variation still exists.

# Discoid: appears as discrete islands of eczema on a background of normal skin.

# Seborrhoeic: in infants appears in the nappy area and the scalp. In adults, also appears on the scalp and in the skin creases between the nose and sides of the mouth. Can be caused by yeast infection.

# Others: a miscellaneous group including eczema of the legs caused by varicose veins and pompholyx – an intensely itchy form located on the hands and composed of small or (sometimes) large blisters.

So eczema can be caused by different things. My daughter is also allergic to many foods but she is also very sensitive to environmental factors such as pets and washing up powder. Try changing your washing up powder to Surcare which can be found in most supermarkets and is designed for sensitive skin. I did try ecover for my daughter as I prefer to use more ecological and natural products, but she reacted to this. Surcare did make a difference.

By Weed on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:31 pm:

Hi, just an update. I contacted Emily and she is sending the cream for steroid testing to an independent company and has also sent the cream to the government body regulating such creams, lotions etc. This is just to alleviate any concerns people might have!

This cream has worked WONDERS for my daughter. I've been using it about twice a day for over a week now and her eczema is clearing completely. The patches are smoother and she has stopped scratching! She's no longer waking up at night scratching and is sleeping soooo much better (first time in her 20months!). What's so fab about this cream is that she seems to tolerate food that would previously cause flare ups! I've only tried a few foods but will try out a few more like the soya milk and maybe even some cheese! I can't recommend this cream enough. Her skin is better and her diet is not so restricted! Absolutely amazing cream!

Soon I'll just be using her 100% organic cream only and the osas occasionally - about once a week!

By Rose on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 11:34 am:

It doesn't contain steroids. I emailed the company to check as I was concerned about that too, since it has such good results I thought it might have high levels of steroid.

Hope that helps

By weed on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 10:17 am:

I'm just a bit concerned that it might contain steroids? Does anyone know if this is the case?

By Rose on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 09:37 am:

Hi, after reading about the OSAS lotion i went onto the website and ordered a bottle. I couldn't find an ingredients list but i emailed the company to see what the ingredients were. I didn't think there would be any chemicals as the website says its 99% natural ingredients. I received a reply very quickly, the ingredients are as follows:

Aqua, Kosher veg, Clotrimazole, Glycerin, Sweet Almond, Jojoba, Palm Stearic Acid, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) juice, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Vitamin E Acetate, Phenoxy, Ethanol, PEG-100 Stearate, Glyceryl Stearate, Isobutyl/ Methyl/ Propyl Parabens

I have an allergy to parabens, so sadly im going to have to return the lotion, but hopefully it will work for other people as there are some really good reviews.

x x x

By weed on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 01:54 pm:

Hi,

I'm really interested if any one has verified any independent information about the osas cream?