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I'm 17 and was diagnosed with Discoid eczema not long ago. The doctor gave me some mild steroid cream to help, but I heard it can be quite dangerous as it thins the skin in the area you apply it to, then I heard from a lady working in The Body Shop that people with eczema swear by their hemp products, so she gave me a sample pot of the Body Butter and almost instantly the rough skin on the area became softer, the itching went and the redness reduced allot. I've been using it daily for two months now, and still have no issues, the redness isn't gone completely, but as it's located in an area nobody can see I don't mind it so much, and sometimes if I'm lax with applying it the area can get slightly dry again, but that's easily fixed, other than that I'd say it works wonders. I also find it works well on my mild atopic eczema.
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Mighty useful. Make no mistake, I apprceaite it.
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Clear, inofmravtie, simple. Could I send you some e-hugs?
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47 year old male I noticed a small coin shaped rash on my upper left arm 14 months ago which gradually appeared to multiply and spread to both arms and most severely over ankles legs and back. Got some limited relief from daily intake of supermarkert cetirazine anti hystemine tablets and prescription Fucibet. Still sufferring went to Doc & got prescribed oral steroid inhaler (long term cough for last 6 months - but nothing on xray), paraffin based moisturiser and Eumovate cream - the latter probably more helpful than even Fucibet. A big fan of conventional medicine (cancer surviver)I eventually listened to my wife's advice and completely cut out all citrus fruit & drinks, tomatoes and processed sliced cheese. Within 10 days the patches had almost completely disappeared. During that time I still drank coffee with milk. It could be that the recent cold weather has contributed to my recovery, but I'm planning to re-introduce first tomatoes then citrus (I suspect the cheese is the main culprit), and finally cheese. This should isolate either single or combined food triggers. The improvement has been unbelieveable for me & I'd urge anyone to try this no cost experiment & see if their condition improves as much as mine has. Good Luck.
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Hi all. So glad I found this site. I've been having a bad flare for the past month or so. I've had discoid eczema for 7 years now (started with an insect bite). I tend to only get it during the summer when it gets hot. This summer, it's been really bad and I'm not sure what to do anymore. I've already been to several doctors, been on oral prednisone, as well as received a kenalog shot. The steroid shot seemed to have helped a bit but it may be wearing off now, because my spots are flaring up again. I'm not sure what else I could do. I use topical denoside cream for the itchy spots but I try to limit it as much as possible. Today, I went to get allergy tested, and it came up no allergies, which is what I already suspected. Discoid eczema is not really related to allergies. I'm thinking about possibly trying Chinese herbs next. Any advice on treatment would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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My nine year old son has been diagnosed with discoid eczema. We have been visiting our doctor every two weeks for the last year and a half. Although he has been very helpful the condition seems to be getting progressively worse. I have recently read a lot of this and other message boards and there are many people with this condition offering various approaches besides medicines. Can anyone recommend to me some core routines that will help my son.
He told me this morning he thought it was getting a bit better because he had said a prayer to god. It is heartbreaking not being able to help him, I need to give him some hope that we can beat it.
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I should have mentioned that whilst yeast in food and drink undoubtedly triggers eczema in some people, in my case, it is the yeast spores that are naturally present in the atmosphere that cause the problem: these spores also cause fermentation
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Overheat, as you suggested clothes may be a contributory factor. The simplest and most effective way is to go around completely nude whenever possible. Gentle sunbathing also seems to help, as the sun it is essential in producing vitamin D and it has antiseptic properties. Never put clothes on until you are completely dry after a shower etc. and remove wet clothes at the earliest opportunity. If you have scabies, you will need to get your GP to prescribe a short course of antibiotics. Yeast infections have a habit of returning and appearing in places not previously affected, so prevention is definitely better than cure and almost all medication potentially have side effects. I have been virtually free of eczema for the past five years and I just apply zinc and castor oil cream, when my skin feels dry and a slight dab of Dermol lotion inside my ears and anywhere I think may have the first signs- a 500ml of Dermol lotion has lasted me about a year.
Feel free to e: mail if you want to discuss further. Peter
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i just looked up about the yeast based eczema and will also change my diet, i eat alot of cheese, pizza's, unhealthy food really.i dont drink beer or if i do its half a pint, a full pint gives me an imediate headache, anyway, i mostly drink coffee, tea in the mornings.
thanks again.
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hi
i think im going to avoid the haelan tape for the time being and use the diprobase maybe once or twice a day, for a few weeks and see if anything improves and, then, if it doesn't improve i will try again with scabies stuff.
considering your experiences and knowledge, what would you recommend to be the best treatment for yeast based eczema?
also, i think my clothes are somewhat contributory to it....
thanks peter
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Overheat,I suspect that your eczema might be caused by the action of yeast, which thrives in dark damp places and by scratching you have caused a secondary infection viz scabies.Dermatologists are aware of yeast based eczema,but they seem to overlook it! Your experience seems similar to mine, when initially my GP and I thought the spots on my shins where cat flea bites. I described my experience and how I have kept my eczema at bay in the following thread. After 5 years of this routine, I have not had an outbreak, although I have to act ydecisively at the first signs e.g. itching.
Eczema and the Body: Seborrhoeic Eczema: Can clothes be a contributory factor?
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wondering if anyone can relate, or give me some advice on what the best thing to do next is....
firstlyhave been to my GP several times and have seen a dermatologist twice.
i have been told by the dematologist (in her words) you have some sort of ezcema). i never had ezcema when i was a kid, and have been suffering with it for about 8 and half months.
i have been prescribed all different things -
from what i remember this is the list
fucibet - because the GP1 thought it was fleas, and then GP2 said it was scabies and then GP3 said the same as the first one. elecon ointment, dermol cream to use in the bath, there are others but i cant remember what they were.
saw the dermatologist again a few weeks ago and, she said to try diprobase cream, and haelan tape...
the diprobase cream seemed to work, and the haelan tape was good for the first few days(i believe its 12 hours and then have a bath and replace the tape. this is what i have been doing, but i have had enough, all the spots that i have, have become much worse more redened and i end up with a yellish gunk type thing in the middle of the spots, they look like small volcanoes. the itch that is supposed to stop with haelan tape, doesnt help, it seems to increase and from where i have also scratched half my skin off i can barely walk without grinding my teeth. so enough of me ranting like a little boy, i wonderd if anyone has had similar experience of this and what is the best treatment for it. sweat seems to irritate my skin aswell.
the places that it is affecting me is mostly my legs, but also my buttocks.
thanks for listening.
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Jessica,pityriasis is caused by yeast, as are some forms of eczema. As your eczema appears to be found on the parts of your body, which are normally covered, your eczema could be that kind, as yeast thrives in dark covered places. As a sun tan cleared up your earlier condition there is a good possibility it will do the same for your eczema. As I have recounted many times here, I have kept my eczema at bay for quite a few years by going around nude whenever possible and taking every opportunity to spend some time in the sun, but taking care not to get burnt. I have found on many occasions that after a just a short time wearing clothes continuously, I start to feel itchy and the tell tale red spots start to appear which herald an outbreak of eczema if I don’t take action. Whilst it is difficult to get a tan during the winter, there are often a few days each month, when a sheltered but sunny spot can be found and just going around the house nude stops the yeast breeding and a little of the sun’s rays penetrate the windows. I understand the new low energy light bulbs being imposed on us emit tanning rays, which may benefit some eczema sufferers, but cause havoc to others.
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I have had this eczema for almost a yr now and instead of getting better it is MUCH worse. It is now almost all over my back, buttocks and thighs, some on my chest and stomach. With little spots in other places too. I'm afraid of it getting on my face etc. Has anyone ever tanned to help control or get rid of it? I had Pityriasis for about 5 months and within 4 wks of tanning it was gone! Then not long after I got this, and I don't know how much more I can take. The very first spot I ever found is still there even. Only bigger. What can I do??
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I am still trying different ways to help rid this blasted rash!! But have I gotten anywhere? No...only short term temporary relief with that steroid cream. Can't stand putting any strong meds on skin (or in body). Looking for the perfect natural remedy. Has anyone noticed that after showering/bathing, there are more red round patches but fade later? It's like wherever you may have had the red patches in the past and thought they disappeared they come out again after bathing. I actually just started noticing this happening for the past month or so. This is the most perplexing disorder I have ever had, wish more info was out there as to what causes this discoid eczema as the medical profession just guesses (everything is stress, according to my physician). Anyone notice that the red patches seem to be mutating? I have more irregular shapes as well as the round patches and also have hives (urticaria) that come up get extremely itchy then turn into the red patches. Strange!!!
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I have had eczema for about 10 years. I have tried creams, pills which help relieve the itching, but only go so far. Recently, I discovered this skin soothing range product from Gaiapharm technology helps to bring my break outs down. I apply it frequently and keep a bottle of it at home and at work, and it really makes a difference. Now I only have to apply the cortisone cream about once a week, or if I get a super bad break out from the weather changes. In general, this helps limit against that and keeps my skin looking wonderfully healthy!
I grew up with these (seasonal) nasty breakouts of tiny, fine bumps when scratched, would turn into blistering sores and then into patches of dry, flaky, itchy skin. I visited dermatologists who told me it was everything from eczema to tinea versicolor and prescribed everything from clobetasol to plain Cortizone. I happened upon a friend who noticed a fresh outbreak on the inside of my elbow and suggested I try Gaiapharm Skin Soothing Range products. To my amazement and relief, the outbreak was cleared up in a matter of 2 days no reoccurrence in weeks. I'm not sure if what I have is eczema or not, but continuing use of Gaiapharm Product did the trick. If you've tried 'everything else' to no avail, give this a try...what do you have to lose? My treatment was: simply use the cleanser as a shower gel follow by the hydrator. My skin look wonderfully healthy.
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Everybody should try chinese acupunture and medicine. But gotta watchout for the bad doctors, so ask around and do some research to find the best traditionally chinese doctors.
Ive had eczcema for over 15 years, and for the pass 2 years it was worst. I ve tried many many steriod creams, but most of them dont even work anymore.
Recently, ive finally made my mind and give acupunture a try, and it worked extremely well. I combined the treatment with a bit of steriod creams and herbal teal ( U can ask for the powder version, which is easier to make and less bitter). I was healed within 2 weeks,almost all the coin sized dots disapperered and some of them turn really light colour.
If the doctor is good, he will also explain how ezcema is caused by our weak immune system/weak detoxing system, and how the natural herbs can strengten our systems when its combined with healthy diet and exercise.
Anyway, i think this is truely a mircale that needles and herbs healed me. So every1 should hurry and give it a try, u ll also learn more bout ur own body. So goodluck, i hope this helps.
Dont rely on steriod creams, anti-biotics, sleep pills, allergies shot, uv treament, tanning salon, healing cream, ect. Been there, done that and they dont help, they dont ultimately help you heal your internal problems thats why u ll keep flaring up.
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try Haelen tape. Its a bit like sticky back plastic and cellotape with steriods in it that you cut to size and simply stick over eczema patches. It is listed as 'stong' as a steriod (it contains Fludroxycortide) and works like a charm. The tape is practially invisable and hardly noticable whilst it is on your body. It also lessens ithcing and irritation as your fingers and nails cant come into direct contact with your eczema as the tape is over it, thus limiting infection and worsening of discoid eczema through constant itching. Ive been using it now for 4 days as a trial to see if anything else might work better for me. i usually use elocon ointment which is another good steriod cream for people who suffer this type of ezcema. if anyone has any experience with either elocon ointment or haelan tape let me know how you got on with them
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I have discoid ezcema on my right ankle. I've had it about 10 years now. When I was travelling in Egypt about 5 years ago I picked up a bacterial infection called cellulitis, which probably entered through the ezcema. Cellulitis is really nasty - worst case scenario is death! It's recurrent; went down with it again this week! Intensive steroid treatment clears up the ezcema, but only for a short period, then it just blows up, with intense, unbearable itching. Obviously I have to do all I can to stop the ezcema so I don't get the cellulitis, but it seems there is nothing that will clear it up completely. However, I will be trying out some of the treatments you guys have talked about on this site - thanks!
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My flare ups of discoid excema are due I think to stress and/or citrus intolerance. Outbreaks for me usually take 8-10 weeks to clear, however I have just tried applying Virgin Cocount Oil mixed with tea tree oil several (say 6-7) times daily and my latest outbreak seems to be clearing up within days, so worth a try, no?
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Hi everyone!! For those of you in the States, hope you had a nice Thanksgiving....I had vegetables as usual so no turkey for me!! As far as the Discoid Eczema, I have been having better luck using Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps 18-in-1 Hemp Eucalyptus Pure-Castille Soap made with organic oils. This is very mild and non-drying and comes in many different scents. I have heard the Almond is beneficial for dry skin and I am trying it next. Also, I have recently used with good results, Ditch The Itch Spray, by All Terrain. A little pricey for the size, but it really alleviates a lot of the itch. It is small enough to carry with you in a pocket or purse. I noticed when I recently sprayed a dry patch coming on with the Ditch The Itch Spray, the dry area seemed to stop spreading and minimized its flakiness. I got both these products from a local health food store but they are also available online. I am trying not to use the steroid cream as much and I really haven't due to these new products I've been trying. I'll keep you posted....Good Luck All!!
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Hi Peacegurl :-)
Yup. Mine raises up like a welt too & turns bright cherry red when my eczema flares. I've read abt it and i think they r called 'vesicles'. It appeared after all the itching and scratching settled. Then, when it flares up again, that's when it turns cherry red. It's really gross looking :-( But i really stopped myself from touching or scratching it even though it itched to high heaven!!! Since then, i've noticed that some vesicles have disappeared...but it takes a very long time!!! i've also stopped taking milk and i think that's helping too. Maybe i'm allergic to dairy products.Not sure yet. This eczema flare ups are just so unpredictable. Have to keep a close watch and see what happens.
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You all have such good advise! I have been suffering from this miserable discoid eczema for three years and instead of improving with time, it has gotten worse over the years! Luckily I do not have any weeping but they are extremely itchy (only certain ones but more so as time goes on). Are any of yours raised up like a welt? Mine also seem to come from within the skin from a deeper level then seem to rise to top of skin where they turn bright cherry red. I have them all over the body but thankfully not on the face. What makes it bad is I get sooooooo hot having to wear cover up clothes as I live in a hot humid area (spring thru fall), dry and cool to cold the rest of year. It doesn't matter what time of year, I get the rash all the time!! Thought humid weather helps??? I would like to try a natural approach as I am vegetarian but do have some dairy, maybe it is the wheat as I have a lot of high fiber wheat products. I also think STRESS exacerbates this condition!!! Also childhood eczema is in my past like a lot of you have. Anyone use the steroid cream, Betamethasone Diproprionate? For me, it helps a little with the itch but not enough and it only retards the spread a little. Lotions, body butters help a bit but not one brand has been more beneficial for me. My family physician diagnosed me but I may see a dermatologist for more suggestions as some of you did.
Let's all try and get this extremely bothersome, ugly rash under control...I'll post any solutions I have benefitted from.
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Hey Flower
I'm so sorry to hear abt ur ailment. But after reading ur post, i think it sounds more like u have some internal problem and the eczema is just a symptom. I've read that the skin is always the first external area to show symptoms of underlying internal problems. Maybe too much toxins & bacterial/viral infections in your body? I think if thats settled, your eczema will go away. Mine flares up from time to time since i was a kid. I am highly allergic to some materials and food...sometimes even environment, weather or emotional stress! So i know if something is out of balance in my body, the eczema is sure to flare up again :-( Since you say it has bacterial infection and has fluid oozing out, try soaking it in sea salt or potassium manganate (Purplish liquid). It helps prevent further infection. When the oozing stops you can apply some vitamin E oil or 'bio-oil'. Good luck Flower!
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Hi, I have had Discoid eczema for about 10 months now. I was first diagnosed after seeing a Dermatologist and having a biopsy. I've tried loads of steroid ointments and creams, moisturisers, which seem to clear it up but immediately after I stop using the treatment it flares up. I end up with pussy like substance and bleeding . I had a swab taken, which showed a heavy growth of bacteria and so it was back to yet another steroid and antibiotic then antibacterial pills and creams,which had the same outcome. Lucky for me mines doesn't itch (so I don't scartch it ever), for which I am truly thankful. I'm now attending Hospital 3 times per week for UVB treatment and also using a steroid but I feel it's not working. My dermatologist told me it's highly unlikely that food alergies or intolerances would be the cause of or agrivate this condition, I also had an alergy test, which showed nothing. I'm absolutely stumped for a solution to this problem, I'm now also having kidney infections, which I had never suferred from before and my imune system is really low; I catch viruses, infections so easily but blood tests don't show any reason for it. I don't know if I'm being a little paranoid, but I wonder if this bacteria is attacking not just my skin. I've confronted my Dermatologist but she said it's nothing sinister??? Is anyone else having or had the same problems? Any advice?
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Hey Rob
I've got exactly the same thing as you i think. And we seem to respond to the same treatment. It all started to get bad when i got some bites and i thought it would heal but they turned into vesicles too. I also get sporadic rashes here and there for no reason :-( The healing process seems slow but thank God I've gotten out of the itch cycle. That helps a whole bunch! Maybe u should try immersing in a sea salt bath and applying bio-oil after that. These 2 treatments are helping me a lot. And it's comforting to know that there are people going through the same thing as me.
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Hi Everyone
My eczema started when i was 5 years old but i remember the skin specialist applied this purple lotion on me and it went off and never came back for many many years. Occasionally i do get a small patch here and there which disappears with betnovate or dermovate application. Then last year i got it really bad at both flexures of elbows, the side of my face near the ear and both ankles (left worse than right)!! I tried everything and found that the eczema at certain areas responded to different treatments! how strange huh?! i applied petroleum jelly for both elbows and the side of my face and they went off. But the lesions behind my ankles were stubborn. The right one got better by itself (when i stopped scratching!) but the left ankle just refused to get better. Now it's become some purplish vesicles but at least it doesnt itch. It only reponded to sea salt and bio-oil. Hope some of u can try the same thing. It might work for you. Most importantly get out of the itch cycle!!!!
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Hi Rosebud. I understand your frustration, and the truth is, there is no miracle cure that cures everyone. It's about finding a course of treatment that works for you personally. I know the dissappointment that comes with buying new creams and then finding they don't work. Loook through the recomendations on this website. Some of them have worked for me. My eczema isn't gone but its the best its ever been thanks to all the people on the website. My big tips are: 1:Try to drink water instead of soft drinks and caffeine, 2:use a shielding lotion. My favourite is derma shield mousse, which i read about on this site. 3:Diet changes may help. Many have benefitted by going wheat or dairy free. 4:stop scratching!!!5:Steroids are not evil. use them wisely and they can really help. All the best.
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I have had excema for (only) a year now and have enough creams to open up a chemist shop. The worst are the patches i get around my mouth..sore spots and itchy patches..I've tried all sorts of creams and washes..is it just a question of time the great healer or is there something that I've yet to try....
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Both of my children have minor eczema. My daughter seems to get patches all over her body, and my son has it only on one cheek. I've stumbled upon using Burt's Bees Buttermilk Lotion on both of them, and it seems to be the only treatment that REALLY WORKS! Last night I purchaced more to put on my son, who had a patch the size of a quarter on his cheek...this morning it's gone! The perscribed cream from our doctor will either overly dry their skin or leave white patches wherever applied.
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Hello all...Im back from my world trip (I was travelling for 10 months) and my discoid eczema died down a great deal since I last posted on here.....however the second I got back to England it got a little worse sprodically, but nothing like before - im blaming this on coming from mainly humid countries to dry, cold and central heating atmosphere here. I also seem to get very delayed reaction if ive cut/scratched myself - which ive not had before- the scratch will heal up fine, but then later on a small vesicle appears.
After sticking to a strict diet for a month, it was thrown out of the window the second I started travelling...and didnt seem to make any difference! What I think did seem to make a difference was being in the sun (and being in the sea)...so I highly recommend investigating getting UV treatment.
Ive also been taking multivitamins and omega3/6/9 pretty much throughout the year.
Anyway, its been 1 1/2 years since i was diagnosed and although i havent forgotten about it, checking managing and treating eczema has become part of everyday life (moisturing, wacking on the betnovate, and oilatum baths) - my confidence has grown back and i feel im my normal self. Dont give up hope!
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i forgot to add my email to the last post.
phoshizzle654@yahoo.com
thanks.
(i most likely won't remember to go back to this page, so emailed would be greatly appreciated. again, thanks!)
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hey everyone.
its been a year now with this horrible skin condition i have.
i haven't been officially diagnosed with discoid eczema but i think most likely it is. a doctor had taken a brief look at it and told me it MAY be eczema, so i did a bit of research. looking at pictures and reading descriptions and symptons, it seemed more and more like it.
so my question is, with these "triggers" that spark/worsen the condition, is it generally the same for most people? or it can be anything depending on the person.
and there's this one thing that confuses me. i only have it on my right hand. and i believe, its the combination of heavy soap and warm/hot water that starts my rashes. at my previous job and current job, washing dishes is a part of the every day task unless my coworker helps me out. and immediately after washing dishes, i would be able to feel the itch come and shortly after bumps would start appearing. the bump and slight itch is the first stage, then it leads on to bubble-like spots. the bubbles then bust after a couple days and leave tiny open wounds. the tiny open wounds then heal a bit and leave a very dry area of skin with small ridges. if i continue without doing the dishes, the super dry skin eventually fades away and heals itself leaving completely normal skin.
the cycle goes on and off like this as long as i'm working at my job. but back to what puzzles me, why is it that only my right hand is affected? i use both hands washing dishes.
really confused at the moment. appreciated if i could be emailed with help.
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Hi, I have been suffering with eczema since 6 years old, im now 29 and have managed to keep this eczema under control, what i have discovered is everyday drink 2 liters of bottle water a day, you will see a big difference. Have a LOW ACID DIET avoid –wheat, milk, eggs, sugar, tomatoes, oranges etc... if you cant just?cut it down.Wheat is the danger foods like cakes, bread avoid them please! If you do eat something that is bad for your skin just drink LOADS of WATER to clear the system to stop the reaction. It works for me!!!!
If you have eczema on the face ONLY wash your face with BOTTLE WATER.
And let it drip dry don’t use the towel because of bacteria.
To wash your skin use Trinity Soap and Shampoo by Elena Nature Collection (you can only buy it on internet)
To cream your body use A-derma Avoine Rhealba Emollient cream ( made from oats & natural)you can get it in some large boots stores
Cream for the face - I highly recommend Moisture gel from Environ and the hydrating oil capsule which is to put the vitamin A back into the skin to normalize the skin again (You can buy this ONLY in beauty salons, I get mine from The Essence Beauty Rooms in Hammersmith tel: 0208 748 8879)
I hope you find this information useful, it took me years to find out how to clear my skin because so sensitive to foods and creams, I found it so difficult but now im more happier
With clear skin. By working on the body inside and out.
Jade
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I'm so grateful for this message board. It really helps to know i'm not alone
My first experience with discoid eczema was two years ago, it was on my face (unusual i think) and was really hard on my confidence, i didn't leave the house for months
and when i did i was sure everyone was staring
I was going through a stressful time and my skin was showing it. After the stressful time was over, and with a heap of steroid creams, my eczema faded. Now it's back and it is so hard to be calm and not worry about it, even tho I know that's the best thing I could do for it. I'm looking for ways to relax and stay positive - because i think that's as important as the medication. everyone here is so brave and we are all learning lessons in being at peace with ourselves. Love and best wishes to you all
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I'm off to work so good luck to everyone I'll check back when I get home..
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Wheatfreecured, it is the inside-out for all dis-eases my friend.
And yes plasmagic, as Albert Einstein says "Nothing will benefit human health and increase chance for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet"
It is
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Amen.... Ken....
It is the inside out.....for your skin.
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so u had vege drinks "only" for ur meal?
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The "Cure" for eczema is simple, as for ALL "Dis-eases". You're body is simply too acidic, you're polluted, literally.
You have been purposely sickened by pharmecutical and food companies in order for them to profit off of your sickness.
How many times have you been sick and the doctor says OK Mr. JD, you've got the flu so the best thing to do is to avoid dairy products and any solids etc, right?
Why? Because Dairy products, MEAT, Yeast and especially corn products are EXTREMLY ACIDIC and they will kill you, all of these foods are like CANCER themselves.
It's a slow death, along with those foods you also need to avoid Coffee, Tea, smokes, alcohol, ALL DRUGS.
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In order to maintain proper health you NEED to ALKALIZE YOUR BODY with vegetable drinks - naturally juiced/blended.
If you're experiencing symptoms of any sort of dis-ease, such foods as healthy as apples or bananas can actually hurt you severly if your body is out of balance.
The sugar content is just too high. All sugar content is Acid-Forming even the "good" kind.
symptoms such as eczema, acne, stomach aches, headaches MS symptoms are all minor signs of something serious about to happen in the coming years.
Such as more serious diseases or cancer which will inevitably take your life, if you don't wake up and do something about you're problems now.
your body is talking to you with these dis-ease like symptoms, LISTEN to it, or pay for it, with your life.
Don't use creams or drugs to cover the symptoms, your body is hurt, treat the problem that's causing the symptoms.
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what about this one:
since you mentioned the bacteria..
tray.dermatology.uiowa.edu/Impetigo004.htm
jeannine
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shawn....
open this site... did it start out looking like picture number 3...
dermatlas.med.jhmi.edu/derm/result.cfm?Diagnosis=109
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I have a skin graph on my left lower leg that is covered in a weepy inflammed scaly never healing rash. it started out as a small red ring and manifested into what it is today. I tried antibiotic. I had a severe reaction and i almost died from toxicity to bactrium. Head to toe rash that burnrd and itched and made my skin almost liquify/burn off. The reaction made the eczema on leg worse and created new patches on arms. I have tried steriod creams/prednizone only to have patches and rash come back/ sometimes worse. I dont recommend you take either for treatment. The only thing that has helped my leg is alot of filtered water and teas taken internally and aplied as wet compresses. The tea that working for me is licorise root, burdock root and marshmellow root. i saw a healing differnce in one aplication/ compress. I still havent tried oatmeal/clay on it. Does anyone know if it is better to let it weep or try to close the pours. Any other advise, anyone. Eczema is the biggest nightmare and it will ruin your life if you let it. Stay positive, we are all still beautiful people.
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I have just finished three months of puva and I think it is fantastic. OK I still have scars on my skin but for the first time in years I have no open sores on my body. If your docter says try puva for discoid eczema try it, I was given negative feedback when I asked about it on this board but for me it has been the best thing ever.
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we are from china we have some herb cream made from very antient recipy for psoriasis and eczema.
you can get more information by searching CSDCC.
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hello. firstly, i wish you the very best in your search to "cure" your son's eczema, and get more normal skin in terms of texture and pigment. i was just wondering if his pigment ever started to return because i, too, have lost pigment in many areas, and i have tan skin.
thank you for reading this and best wishes,
alia
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Rob....
I am so glad that you discovered your allergies...
I have the wheat and gluten.... if you research, celiac... you will find.. that you maybe able to tolerate milk down the road.. in the mean time.. once you go on the wheat free diet... all of the itch will go away...within 5 days... and within a couple of weeks.. your skin will begin to heal..please goggle: celiac disease...
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Hello all. Ive given up on the apple cider vinegar, been caning zinc with vit c and omega oil capsules for the past month. No obvious effect though...Have had a few revelations though...
I sent off for an online home food allergy test kit (yorktest.com) and found out that Im allergic( have raised IgE anti bodies) to milk, egg, beef, nuts, gluten, wheat...and plenty of others. So am gonna cut all of these out and hope for the best.It was £250, but I am definitely glad that I did it.
After persisting to my dermatologist to get UV treatment, I will be starting a course in Jan...(this is after Ive made a few visits to the tanning shop. 5 mins at a time, and it seemed to have some kind of effect!)
Merry Xmas all...R
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I saw Alex mention that he planned to try out Epitrex, but he hasn't followed up. I was also thinking of trying it out, after finding their website. But I also discovered that it's just too good to be true: the company who makes the stuff (Selmedica Healthcare) has some pretty shady business practices. Check out the Better Business Bureau website and see what I mean... Sigh... Back to the drawing board...
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To those living in UK.
Has your eczema got sudddenly worse this week?
Due to the sudden drop in temperature in the weather.
Mine has. Dunno what to do as the diprobase doesnt seem to be having much effect anymore.
Im slowly giving up on the omega 3/6/9 oils, the apple cider vinegar and the zinc supplements....grrrr.
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hi, i have diagnosed with discoid eczema. I had this skin problem when i was 15 yers old up to now. I am now turning 25 and my life turns bad.My career is being affected.I haven't seen a doctor since year 2000. I was in college that time and i suffered alot.I couldn't afford to buy all the necessary medicine i need. Gladly these days i think my problem has mellowed down a little. I know the wounds are not yet completely gone. cuz i stil feel the itchiness all the time. I get small red spots on my skin. My skin has really changed. It looks awful. I still have the dark marks and my skin has turned even darker and looks dry. I try to put moisturizer everytime and i take vitamins too. It helps a little though. But my big corncern now are the marks. I get really really shy and embarrased everytime others tell me that i have bad skin. Is there a solution to my problem? but what if this eczema continue trigerring me, spots are left time after time. :-(
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hi Rob, if you've read the other posts you'll know i've had discoid eczema for a while which also started with an insect bite. I wasn't happy with my treatment and recently paid to go see a private dermotoligist and it's the best thing I could have done.
At the moment I'm getting my legs wrapped in steripaste bandages, then covered in K-Soft and then Tubifast. I get that done three times a week and I'm also starting UVB treatment in December.
Since the wrapping has been done I've slept better than I have in a long time and I'm not waking up with bits of blood and skin all over the sheets.
By the way I know what u mean about the eczema affecting your confidence.
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Perhaps, I should mention the "copy & paste" post was written 18 months ago and since then my skin has continued to improve,as indicated in my post of 21st November2006.
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Rob, I have just copied and pasted below my post on the other thread.
" I normally go around the house and garden completely in the nude. However this winter for the first time in ten years, I wore clothes at home virtually continuously and it was not long before I developed quite severe seborrheoic eczema with the worst areas being my lower legs and elbows, although I did have small areas on my upper thighs and waist. In the past I had noticed that if I wore clothes for more than a couple of days I developed spots on my legs, which would disappear once I went around nude again. On this occasion I developed spots around my ankles, which my doctor and I both initially thought were cat flee bites, but leaving them untreated they progressed to full blown eczema: I have since discovered that acne type spots can be a symptom of eczema. I had been prescribed various steroid creams, but all they did was exacerbate the condition. I believe that clothes encourage yeast spores, which it is thought may be factor, to multiply and when the skin become sensitive the clothing acts like an abrasive. Whilst I have not yet cleared up my skin, there has been a marked improvement since I have dispensed with clothes and just applied moisturisers such as Aqueous Cream BP or Dermol lotion. In my case sun and air seems to be the best solution. I have resolved not to wear clothes at home unless absolutely necessary: fortunately most of my friends, relations and neighbours accept my lifestyle and in future any visitor will have to express a strong objection in order to make me dress."
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Thanks for the replies. I forgot to add that Im 24 by the way. Im sick of going to the hospital and being the youngest person in outpatients!
Apologies for the editing earlier...bit of a botched copy and paste job)
@Nicole, yes I do still work. Luckily I dont have anything on my face, and everything else can be covered up...though I cant sit still for long as I start itching (I dont do scratching anymore - not allowed! just rubbing..) and the air con is no help either.Im lucky that if things get a bit nasty I can work from home(I work in I.T.). I would suggest trying the Apple Cide Vinegar again..I think it does make a bit of a difference (though Im starting to smell of it) Will try out the Burdock tea..
@Peter, what was your strict regime?
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Rob, your initial symptoms sound very similar to the ones, I experienced, which I described in “Eczema and the body” “Seborrhoeic Eczema” “Can clothes be a contributory factor”. I wonder whether your “Mosquito bites” were the first indication that yeast spores had started to attack. My “bites” became infected and I had to be treated for impetigo. Steroid ointments made matters worst and since strictly following my regime my eczema has virtually gone except for small “dirty patches” round my ankles. However after just a couple of days remaining clothed, I notice the early indications that if I am not careful it will flare up and my sulcus can be affected after just a few hours.
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Hey Rob
Thats awful, I have atopic ezcema pretty much all over my body as well and eczema scars on face,arms and neck and legs and maybe back and also affected self confidence and have to admit that i isolated myself
I have also tried the apple cyder but im not very good at sticking to things, Have you tried zinc? I cant remember what its for but i often get priscribed it, And i have tried burdock tea that looks like urine and tastes like urine its gross but i did notice it made a difference, I have also tried evening primrose oil on my face which i have noticed helps
Do you still work? I used to do nurse aiding but my skin on hands got so bad and washing my hands so often 100 times in a shift didnt help either, I cant work in an air condiioned building becuase my skin gets so dry even though i drank loads and loads of water, Actually im hoping to do a Web design course so i can work at home
Oh well i hope your skin gets better and im definetly interested in seeing how your diet helps your skin
Nicole
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Hi Im Rob. Ive had the worse few months of my life - but this discussion board has open my eyes up and provided me with a few ideas and explanations about what going on in my body:
In March 2006 I went to Hong Kong for a fortnight for a family holiday...as usual I was bitten by a few mosquito bites.
However, some of these bites healed, and some on my lower legs didnt heal. I didnt think anything of it...just thought they
were healing 'slowly'.
Things started to get worse come June, and by July the bites appears red round the edges. Gradually this redness seemed to
get bigger and darker and itchier, and the bites started weeping...a golden/orange fluid
After going to my GP- he just said it was Impetigo and prescribed me with Flucloxacillin.
After another month...the infection got worse and had started to spread. Both legs were now bandaged.
The GP then prescribed me with a new AntiBiotic - Clarythromycin...that night I had an allergic reaction where by whole body
swelled up and was itchy and in pain allover.
Next day I went to A&E. Didnt do much. Took a blood test as they were worried that I had a tropical disease of somesort.
A week later I go to my GP to ask for some painkillers...he gives me some Dicofenac... that night I had another allergic
reaction. This time even worse.
I went to A&E again - this time I was admitted (Charing Cross, Hammersmith) Mainly because of the allergic reactions, then
secondly for the state of my legs.
I was in hospital for 4 days and was taken off my antibiotics and only treated with Steroid creams and
antihistamine(Piriton). Eventually the legs and my body seemed to heal up. Only on my last day was I sent to see the Dermatologists.
They werent sure what the things on my legs were - but they suspected Discoid Eczema.
They sent me home with a bag of Betnovate steroid cream, Dermol 500 (shower cream), Piriton and started me back on
antibiotics again (Noooooo) Lymecycline
Its now August bank holiday- So Im out of hospital and Im on the mend, I even go to Wales for a holiday and up Snowdon.
My legs are smooth(ish) the only problem Im getting is that Im getting sporadic hot red itchy rashes (all over my body now)
...and Im presuming this is because of the dying allergic reaction.
So I decide to go back to work.
After a 'check up' at the dermatologist they took some Biopsies- 2 on my shins and one (new one) on my shoulder.
2 weeks later my legs start to get worse again...and this time my back, arms, chest, backside, thighs and ears are all affectd. I get little blisters all over my hands and feet. Im in constant itchy pain, oozing all over and cant sleep properly for 2 weeks. Whats going on?!
Only then do I start reading about discoid eczema and realise that my symptoms match...round/coinlike weepy crusty patches.
And Im assuming this is my 'Secondary' attack.
I go to hospital again and this time they cant admit me cause theyre arent enough beds....so Im sent to the daycare centre at Chelsea and Westminster specialist Dermatology Centre.
The nurses there are very helpful. Im given Potassium Manganate baths (purple) which help stop the weeping (close up the
vesicles) and go through a variety of different moisturisers 50/50, Emulsiderm and now Im on Diprobase.
The back, ears, hands and feet all healed up after about a week. Woohoo.
But it doesnt really stop there. Its now November. Ive had another Biopsy done and it finally confirmed ECZEMA.(not
necesarilly discoid) - great. Although Im definitely not as itchy as before- my patches heal and up look better. Then after a while theyll get worse, but Im not getting many new ones. I was then given a steroid injection in my backside (not that painful actually!) which seemed to make things better for a few days...but thats all.
I was also being told about UV treatment, but then told its not commonly used for discoid eczema...
so Im contemplating just going to a Tanning shop.
Im scarred all over, physically and mentally.
Ive lost a lot of confidence and I know Im not myself infront of strangers and even my frieds.
Im hoping this is all going to go away (Ive read that once you get it, it never comes back again...but Im not sure about this) but Im trying to ignore it and not let it take over my life- Im planning on a world trip in February and am hoping for the best.
Im still on Steroid creams (I cant remember the name), Diprobase and Piriton (works wonders for sleep) - these help the swelling and itchyness, but theyre not preventing the recurance of patches appearing - which I must now be internal.
Ive also tried alternative medicine:
APPLE CIDER VINEGAR 2 tablespoons diluted in water, twice a day. and also in the bath.
Seemed to have an affect, though seemed to give me heartburn(cause of the acidity)...Since having a week off my eczema seems to have got worse...so going to start it up again - after a meal (so it doesnt burn out my stomach)
CHINESE HERBAL TEA. Stinks and tastes horrible. Takes a while to brew. Undecided on this. And is v expensive.
OMEGA 3,6,9 & Flaxseed oil capsules twice a day. Dunno about this either, but supposed to be good for skin healing.
will keep you informed
and Im bombing down the multivitamins and really keeping an eye on my diet to see what might be prolonging this (Im cutting out yeast this week!, then maybe dairy, gluten...)
Contemplating doing a private food allergy test (homeinonhealth.com/) though theyre v expensive (£150-250)
(my flatmate did this and found that cutting out yeast prevented his atopic eczema outbreaks)
and also awaiting a Patch test at hospital when I finish on the steroid creams(if I ever do).
Im also planning on trying out some Fade out / Scar serum ointment to help my scars go away.
Anyway, keep your head up and try not to let this get you down. Its bloody hard I know.
I hope this story may help somebody in someway.
If you suspect something, try and get to your Dermatologist ASAP. My GP laughed at me the first time I asked if I could see one...just because the waiting lists are too big. It took 2 allergic reactions and a trip to A&E for me to finally get seen by them..
R
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my doc told me onli 60% of the patient will see result, unfoturnately i am the 40 %, after months my doc told me i can stop since there isnt result
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I am now seeing a new doctor and he's starting me on a treatment of ultra-violet light (UVB). I will have to go to the hospital three times a week. He also wants me to have my legs bandaged and to leave them on for a few days, I will have to attend my GP clinic for this.
Has anybody else tried this treatment and does it work?
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I have been reading a lot about wet wrapping, is that suitable for discoid eczema?
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mine is more to rash , when it gets worse it will look like being scalded by boilin water which is boilin red tat covers every inch of my skin, u r from spore do u have msn? mine is boafever@hotmail.com
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how does your eczema look like???
big coin liked or rashes liked?
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? i din t know can have more then one eczema.. did u confirm wit the doc? is it bad? how do u cope? i cant even cope wit 1 type of eczema.. sigh
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hi wendy,
how r you..i fom spore too..what the difference between discoid and atopic eczema?
anyone pls advise?
i think i hv both
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My arms and legs are the worst but at the moment I also have them on my back and my bum cheeks. Going through a bad patch with it at the moment
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is your body affected other than arms and legs?
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Round sores, mostly on the legs and arms, usually weeping (at least mine are) caused by an injury, burn or bite
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Hi,
What is discoid eczema??
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I've just found this site and have been reading some of the posts. I have had discoid eczema for a couple of years (all started after getting bit while on holiday in greece). My doctor kept treating me for impetigo, then said it was an allergy and after six months of my skin getting worse I finally got refered to a dermotoligist who diagnosed me straight away.
I've just finished a course of anti-biotics because my skin became infected and at the moment it's still really sore as the tablets don't seem to have cleared it up and propaderm just doesn't seem to help anymore (been using that for six months now, before that fucibet)
Anyway now I've rambled on what I need help with is scratching, every morning I wake up and my legs and arms are red raw, I take antihistamines but they just don't seem to help anymore and I'm actually glad winter is coming because I've spent all summer covering up.
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i am from spore. initially i was diagnosed atopic dermatitis, meaning i only had rashes and will disappear after some medication. But now, i am suffering from discoid eczema, which is far worse. Now, there are ugly coin-liked scars all over my legs and hands. They are just permanent and that makes me lose all my confidence. In fact i am embarrassed when i am in the public. My dermatologist said those marks cannot be removed but will be lightened with the use of moisturisers. Can i be completely healed? Will the scars disappear? Why me?
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Eczema is not a topical skin disorder but a essential fatty acid metabolic disorder.
When the conversion of these EFAs is impaired a breakdown in all areas of cellular function occurs. The first step in metabolizing these EFAs is effected due to an impaired delta 6 enzyme. There are many factors involving this metabolic pathway including Vitamin and Mineral deficiencies as well as a lack of balance in the two main Essential fatty acids Omega 6 and Omega 3.
They work through a series of adding and subtracting from the carbon chain to make more LCPUFAs (Long chained Polyunstatured Fatty Acids). These fats make eicosanoids which work locally on our cell membranes as communicators telling the cells what is missing or needs repair and also what can go in and out of the cell through the membrane. Prostaglandin 1 is one of the more important eicosanoids which controls tumour necrosis facotr, vassal dialation, basically directing traffic in all our cellular functions.
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Forrest i read what u posted that sounds interesting and might actually work. I'm goin to try it(Fingers Crossed all goes well) i am already eating plenty of fruit and vegetables.
BTW how long have you had this condition?? Has it cleared up? Would like to know how your treatment is goin.
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Monica how did ur discoid eczema start? where bouts did it start?
i have always had healthy skin but now suffering from discoid eczema (2yrs) i cant wear t-shirts and shorts anymore.
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Hi I am 20. I thought that I had recurrent ringworm for a year. I am still not sure, it may be nummular eczema. What kind of signs should I look for. I have never had this problem before and I am so confused. What things should I keep out of my diet?
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Jen,
Are you suffering from discoid eczema? I'd love to hear.
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My beliefs on the topic have developed and evolved: I think fruit is the answer. Start eating ONLY when hungry. Then, eat fruit. Don't give in to temptations to eat breads, meat, dairy, pasta, junk food, pop, etc. Try to eat fruit only for several days. I'm on day 2 of a 4 day cleansing with fruit and distilled water only. If you get an upset stomach consider it a good thing. It means your body is purging toxins. That is what fruit does. See how long you can do this. When you finally give in after anywhere between 4 days to 4 weeks. Then eat only vegetables, green leafy vegetables, not potatoes. I believe you'll like the end result. It may get a little worse though during this fast with fruit, but the end result is what its all about. It is believed that a diet of 6 weeks fruit then 6 weeks vegetables, alternating every six weeks is sustaining for life and the most cleansing and proper diet for the human animal. I'll know soon enough. Looking forward to sharing the end result. My skin will tell me!
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Hi Monica talk to us here on the board. How are feeling today?
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Hi I have discoid eczema and it is really bad at the moment. Is there anyone out there who I can talk to who is suffering like I am?
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Attention Everyone: I have an eczematous rash. Please take my experience to heart. Lotion must not contain petrolatum or it will clog pores and make bacterial infection occur. Further, lotion is not a treatment really. You must close the pores. Buy KISS MY FACE ~ oatmeal facial mask and use it where your rash is. Wash it off with cool water after it dries (about 10 min. to dry) Vegetable Glycerin, oatmeal, and clay are the three ingredients. Oatmeal soothes redness, minimizes itching. Glycerin is hygroscopic, it actually attracts moisture (water molecules) from the air and draws water to your skin. Clay draws pathogens and aggrivators out of the skin and closes your pores. Rinse with cool water to keep pores closed. Further, YOU MUST drink ONE GALLON of DISTILLED WATER every day. Do not drink tap water or pop. Borage oil is an inexpensive supplement that will provide internal relief of flaky, cracking skin, the water will prevent this alleged chronic problem from recurring, and the oatmeal, clay, glycerin mask used as a wash will leave moisture in the skin while eliminating the infected, cracked, weepy, dry rash.
Vegetable glycerin ($6.00 health food store)
Oatmeal (grocery store)
Clay (dissolve a little in water ~ get it at an art supply store)
make your own if you want in a blender.
Borage oil (pills ~ $8.00 health food store)
Distilled water ($0.89 a gallon grocery store)
Kiss My Face oatmeal/clay mask ($5.50 Walgreens or general merchandise store)
Don't hesitate to use the clay, oatmeal, glycerin wash as often as necessary. You may get lavender water to spray on the rash to soothe itching or hot areas. Do not use steroids, creams, lotions, emmolients, antifungals, or topical antibiotics. Tetracycline can provide relief immediately if you have weeping. call your doctor it is often prescribed over the phone. It is not necessary to stay on tetracycline more than 4-6 weeks. Use the wash/mask, rinse with cold water and take borage oil full dose then down to one pill a day after 2 weeks. KEEP drinking water, NOT TAP WATER. IT MUST BE DISTILLED WATER. one gallon a day. I believe you will not have any further outbreaks after 6 weeks of this treatment. My 14 months of eczema suffering up and down both forearms and wrists is about to be virtually cured with this exact treament. Last, cotton is best, polyester okay. DO NOT EVEN TOUCH ANY WOOL COATS, BLANKETS, RUGS, SWEATERS, ETC. Wool is an aggravator because it pokes your pores and then they open up. This is when bacteria take hold, the immune system reacts to the bacteria but can't kill it off because of cracking skin. The cracking skin is a result of lacking the gallon of distilled water a day and seabuckthorn, borage, or flaxseed oil. Do not use any other treatments. I SWEAR THIS IS THE RIGHT TREAMENT.
fgr_16@hotmail.com
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I have had this nummular eczema about a year now, it started last year about christmas time it was awful. I had a rash on my face really bad, my face was all red i couldn't look anybody in the eye because i was ashamed. The doctors that i saw said that i was because i was stressed out a lot and abused alcohol. Im only 20 years old and i thought i was a healthy kid, never had any problems in the past but i guess i was wrong there. Recently it seemed that my eczema was going but then i had a bad flare up so im back to taking antibiotics and applying emoillents frequently. How come i never found this site sooner? I don't know anybody who has this type of condition. It would be great if some of you guys can share any views about it or certain things you have tried that helped. Right now im using aqueous cream as a soap sub,hydrous ointment as a emoillent and benovate as a steroid cream. I also am going to try another product called epitrex which is a product to help eczema on the inside and outside it provides the vital minerals that help boost the immune system and help keep the skin healthy. It has a spray which you use on the affected areas to relieve itching (fingers crossed this goes alright) i will post again when i try the product to see if there are any improvements then we'll see if it is worth recommending.
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By john on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 12:20 am:
Hi I am 42 years old and until I recently moved house have never had any skin problems at all. In the last 2 years I have started to get the round blisters on my arms and legs, and now on my back. I also have quite bad flair ups on my face bu this seems to be different type of excema. I have been to the GP but all they have given me is steroid creams and said bath in aqueous cream. It must be something I am coming into contact with because it only started when I moved 2 years ago.
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my husband has had nummeral eczema for 4 years now and has just gotten worse he has had a staf infection since january it is like he is alergic to air and water if he keeps it covered up in 2 days it looks better soaps and shampoo without chromium seem to help he uses hebaclinse rx soap to keep staf infection away
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Hi Shady,I was diagnosed with discoid eczema a few years back.I already had asthma and atopic eczema(not too severe thankfully) I have found that the discoid eczema is the last to respond to treatment.At the moment I'm gouing through a really bad phase of both so lots of sleepless nights.I'm not sure how your eczema is affecting you etc.If you post here I may be able to help..I've tried plenty things and am visiting derm doc today for some more bright ideas.Also pos try Aloe Vera treatment.Hope I can help.
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I've just been diagnosed with Discoid Eczema. I'm 19 and have never had eczema or asthma before, but have always had highly sensitive skin. I'm now so scared that this is going to be with me for years and I know so little about it. The last message posted about Discoid Eczema was over a year ago, I'm hoping there is somebody who could tell me something about it please?It's comforting to find a website like this.
Shady.
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To Fennie,
It would be steps 1+3. The lotion is a moisturizer. It is important to moisturize the skin immediately after bathing, because that is the time that the body loses a lot of its moisture. Therefore moisturizing the skin immediately after a shower or bath seals in the skin's moisture. The lotion also contains vitamin E and aloe, which are beneficial to the skin's healing process.
When I suggested decreasing the salt and sugar intake and regarding the sugar, I was referring more to 'junk food' sweets; such as candies, cookies, and cakes. Honey, along with fruits, is a natural sweet and is okay to consume, unless you are allergic to honey.
I hope I've answered your questions sufficiently,
My Niece
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My niece,
Thanks for replying me.
I want to clarify the steps of applying the lotion. Should the steps be(1+2+3) or (1+3)?
1. Bathing
2. Apply moisturizer
3. Apply the Burt's baby lotion
Also, you suggest to decrease the salt and sugar intake. Can we drink honey?
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To Fennie,
I apologize for the long delay in a response to your questions, I am sorry for any inconvenience or anxiousness that my delay in responding to you may have caused.
Yes, you can place the lotion on the infected area. It is an all over body moisturizer. Remember that I said my niece's eczema breakout covered her entire 3 month old body. The lotion restores the moisture to the skin and the vitamins and minerals go to work immediately on healing the skin. You should notice a ceasing of the oozing, weeping skin as the healing takes place.
Clean, moisturized skin was key to the process. We bathed her skin daily and applied the moisturizer immediately after bathing. We also bathed the baby's skin with a natural soap from the same line. Considering that I hear a lot of people say they only bathe their eczema suffering child once or twice a week, this may explain why our results were more immediate and more drastic. We understood that the most crucial point of moisturizing the skin is immediately after saturation in water (bathing); and therefore instead of decreasing the bathing, we applied the needed moisture to clean skin immediately after bathing. We also understood that the skin gets rid of harmful bacteria through exfoliation. Bathing helps in this process in two ways: by washing off the dead skin cells and by not promoting the growth of harmful bacteria that dirty skin promotes.
Why has the lotion been effective in the treatment of eczema? Understanding that eczema skin is severely dehydrated skin, you can understand the need to restore moisture to the skin. Understanding that the moisture barrier in the skin is the skin's protecter against harmful irritants, you can see why restoring moisture to the skin is so important. In eczema sufferers, because the moisture barrier is depleted, they are more vulnerable to attack from harmful irritants. Because it is a natural (light) lotion that contains the vitamins and minerals the body needs is also reason for the success.
The most important thing however to this process (moreso than the lotion) is to DRINK WATER! I cannot stress enough to you the importance of having your child increase her water consumption. Decreasing her salt and sugar intake will also aid in the process. You can opt for 100% fruit juices instead of soft drinks, and fruits for her sweet tooth instead of cookies or candies. There are some cookies that can be purchased at your local health food stores that also satisfy the child's sweet tooth, without being as detrimental to a healthy immune system.
I hope that this provides you with more clarity and I wish your daughter much success.
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My niece,
I have read your suggestions and bought the Burt's bee baby buttermilk lotion immediately. I want to know what should we notice when applying this lotion? Should it be applied on the eczema-affected area? Why can the lotion control the eczema? Your niece was so lucky, but will the miracle also happen on us? I am so disappointing about my 4-yr old daughter's condition. Different people told me to try different method. I have tried hard but I am still hopeless. Will there be helping hands from God?
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Ruth,
I totally understand your passion; therefore there is no need to apologize. I also gained insight as to why doctors of today prescribe steroids to suppress the immune system as opposed to traditional medical doctors who would focus on the deficiency and replenish the vitamins and nourishment needed; thus creating a balance within the immune system whereby the good fighters aren't being overtaken by the bad.
Good medicine should heal without causing harmful side effects in the process. In the field of surgery, the technical advancements of today are impressive. However, I am not at all impressed with modern medicines which when prescribed, also warn of the other diseases that they may cause. Modern medicines need to revisit and build upon the basic foundations established and improve upon where needed; instead of discarding the foundations of medicine as archaic.
More likely than not, you will probably be the person that finds your daughters cure. I know of a woman who suffered with her son's eczema up until the age of seven. She visited a classical homeopathic practitioner/MD who examined her son and prescribed a medicine specifically formulated for him and he was healed of the eczema in two weeks. Her son is now 21 and still free of the eczema. She stresses that there is a clear difference between modern homeopathic treatments verses the classical treatments, and advises that people interested should search for a doctor familiar with and educated in classical homeopathy. I think that this might be worth your research. You're probably going to find your daughter's cure somewhere in the middle.
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to my niece, i couldn't agree with you more on our common purpose and passion through all of this and as i read across my post today i realised that it probably did come across in a somewhat strongworded fashion and for that i apoligise. i wrote this post at some ongodly hour of the morning. i appreciate what you are saying, and i guess what i was trying to say but came out in a garbled sort of way is that unfortuantely we have gone down every road possible and having such severe eczema which causes total disability is extremely frustrating and stressful for all of us as we all would know. we have followed all these steps and continue to do so, yet we are battling with genetic demons here which won't be tamed! despite all the moisturisers, wraps, antibacterial/antihistamine agents etc etc..the only relief that has been sustained in a realistic manner has come from directly targetting the source of the immune response rather than the symptoms they cause. we now don't have to use morphine to relieve the pain that came with this, the courses of antibiotics, hospitalisations, the constant anxiety of burning and itching with the other kids looking on in horror as she bleeds all over the floor. eczema is such an individual, complicated and tricky condition and what works for one may/may not work for another, but we do in fact keep an open mind and are currently trialling other alternative treatments in the vain hope we can get her off this stuff. believe me - i don't like to use steroids or any other from of immunosuppressant medication any more than the next person and my favourite place to see them would be in the bin, but at the same time it is important to realise that whilst they do have their negative side effects as you know...they do also have their benefits. if you can get away without having to use any of them ...then i do consider you fortunate in this respect and certainly keep doing what you are doing!! all the best.
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To Diana,
You have witnessed two passionate sides to the issue of steroid use regarding children and eczema. I wasn't writing to convince Ruth, and I'm sure her intention wasn't to convince me. The purpose was to provide you with our experiences and for you to judge for yourself what is best for you and your family. My oldest niece is 4 years old and would have been on a similar medical regimen as Ruth's daughter had we agreed to follow the doctor's orders. Witnessing our mothers suffering with excema and steroid medications for 36 years, prompted us to take another route. We researched, developed the 3 step process, applied the wisdom and the healing was drastic, immediate, and long term.
You can find medical research on both sides of this issue, disputing each others findings and fighting for ownership of miracle breakthroughs and cures. However, when it comes down to it, the question that remains is this: Is the child still suffering? It would be wrong for me to downplay the success that my family has experienced to spare the feelings of those who haven't had that same success. Not every one will; however, your child might be the one who experiences that same success. Although my intention wasn't debate, (I hate them with a passion) and because I am more passionate about suffering children, I can take the bruises, especially if it means a child is spared the suffering. My family didn't just get lucky (severe total body eczema breakout), we got educated and we worked to end the suffering immediately. That was our goal and consequently the result.
Ruth's fight for her daughter's healing is no less caring or compassionate, it's just different from ours. Your fight for your son will be unique to you. The one point to which both Ruth and I do agree is that you continue to fight for your son's best health and relief from the suffering.
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The DTC Derma Therapy Center is a Derma Therapy Clinic that claims to be located next to the National Institutes of Health and Bethesda Naval Hospital. The toll free number is 1-866-329-3628. The website is www.childhood-eczema.com. My nieces didn't need the services, because they had and still maintain tremendous success with the Baby Bee Buttermilk lotion. However, and because I understand the suffering, I hope that your child will soon experience immediate, long term healing as well. Maybe this clinic can help.
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my niece, could you please if available provide me with the website or e-mail address of the Derma Tech company whom claims they have a 100% sucess rate with eczema treatment. i would be very interested to follow this up and speak to them.
i read with interest your posts re this lotion which has been beneficial for your niece(s) and am happy that at least you have been able to avoid using steroids and other meds and find something effective to control this. for many of us however this has not been the case and we are not so lucky.
there are also a few points that you have raised which concern me. firstly, yes steroids do suppress the immune system - they also reduce the level of inflammation in the body - which is why they are widely used in asthma and sometimes in cases to break a severe eczema flareup episode when topical treatments fail/inadequate to control symptoms. they actually assist in healing short term through reduction in allergic reaction process.
secondly, allergens by definition are substances which induce allergic reactions and are not toxins - toxins are defined as poisonous substances.
thirdly, It is the allergic reaction that causes the tissue injury. ALL allergic reactions cause tissue injury. Eczema type reactions fall into the category of Type 1 hypersensitivity(anaphylaxis) reactions on a localised level. fourthly, Eczema is NOT a product of a weakened immune system - quite the opposite could be said - it is this hypersensitive (or overreactive state) that causes the problem for the individual. If this was the case, then you would see that individuals with compromised immune systems would experience a much higher levels of eczema severity and frequency - this is simply untrue. This is why the newest line of eczema treatment - the TIM's (topical immunomodulators) e.g. protopic, elidel -which directly target the immune response at the skin level are offering great hope as a possible replacement/adjunct for the steroids.
fifthly and finally, the most recent medical research has now shown that removing the carpet from the floors in homes of individuals who suffer from allergies in fact makes no difference to their condition - this info comes direct from our Asthma Association. obviously removal or identification of any triggers that knowingly provoke or aggravate any form of allergic condition e.g. food, environmental factors should be implemented into daily life where possible.
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Hello Diana,
The Derma Therapy clinic which specializes in skin disorders is located in your area near Bethesda, Maryland. They boast a 100% success rate in their treatment of children with excema.
My niece suffered a severe excema breakout (total body) that was cleared up in two weeks with a natural, non-steroid lotion and absolutely no medications. She is now 2 years old and still eczema free. We still use the lotion as a daily moisturizer for her skin. Burt's Bees Baby Bee Buttermilk Lotion cost $9.00 for the 7oz. bottle and was purchased at our local Whole Foods grocery store.
Please hear my heart. I started writing on eczema message boards to speak for suffering children who weren't able to clearly articulate for themselves. I've witnessed the success of freedom from excema for 4 years now without any medications and an adoption of good health habits and common sense wisdom. The following is what I have learned.
By weighing both sides of this issue, the ultimate goal is that you will gain the wisdom to make an informative decision regarding your child's health.
Should you take the steroid route, understand this: steroids suppress the bodies immune system. Understanding that the bodies immune system is what fights off harmful toxins (allergens), you can see why this is a problem. Steroids temporarily bring relief. Because they only suppress and don't heal, the child or user becomes addicted to the medication in order to keep the symptoms suppressed.
Although there are many factors that contribute to eczema breakout, the one common denominator between all eczema sufferers is a weak immune system. There is no better fighter (no medication) against toxins in the body than a healthy immune system. If suppressing the symptoms is your goal, then steroid use is the option for you. However if your goal is to bring healing to your son, then the ultimate goal is to strengthen his weakened immune system; so that his body is able to fight.
There are three factors that must be attacked in order to successfully treat eczema skin: internal, external, and foreign. In other words, you need to build up the immune system, moisturize the skin with a natural, non-steroid lotion, and identify the allergen.
To build up the immune system, drink more water, eat more fruits and vegetables, and decrease the salt and sugar intake.
Excema skin is severely dehydrated skin, which is why drinking water is so important to the process of not only eliminating the harmful toxins in the body, but also in rehydrating the moisture barrier in the skin. The moisture barrier serves as your skin's protecter against harmful toxins (allergens). In eczema sufferers, the moisture barrier is depleted; thus making them more vulnerable to harmful attack. Moisturizing with a natural lotion that contain the vitamins and minerals needed to nourish and replenish the skin is vital to a healthy immune system. Our family has had dramatic, immediate, and long term success with the Burt's Bees Baby Bee Buttermilk Lotion; however you will need to find the natural moisturizer that will bring your son the same success (according to his allergens).
The third step in the process is to identify the allergens; so that you can rid your son's environment of the allergens when necessary.
Because your son's allergens get worse at night, I would immediately change all of his bed linens and check for dust mites in the curtains as well. Where eczema and asthma both exist, dust mites are a major probability of the cause. If the floor in his room is carpeted, I would get it removed immediately. Wood or cork floors are a much better option for him. Shutters and blinds are also more preferable over curtains or drapes. Invest in a clean air purifier as well. These are the necessary changes that will bring about immediate results in both his eczema and asthma. Do not underestimate the importance of this step in the process towards your son's healing.
There are several entrance points for harmful toxins to enter the human body, and they are as follows: the skin, eyes, ears, nose, & mouth. Understanding the entrance points for harmful toxins into the body, you can understand the connection between eczema and asthma. Therefore, understand that you don't need to suppress the immune system with steroid medications, you need to strengthen your son's immune system and flush out the harmful toxins that have attacked his body.
Again, I want to stress that my family has experienced, immediate, long-term success with no medications. Because we knew of the damage of steroid use through my mother who has suffered with eczema all of my 36 years of living, we knew to stay away from them when treating our nieces. I will sincerely help you in any way that I can to bring about immediate, and long term health and healing for your son.
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diana, get your son into your local doctor and ask for an urgent referral to an allergist/immunologist. explain to your doctor about both of these conditions - because asthma flareups in particular need ot be treated seriously and urgently. i know many people here are very against the use of steroids - but we have used them with our daughter quite successfully - and i am talking about the oral forms i.e. prednisolone to break very bad cycles of both eczema and asthma. yes they do have side effects e.g. raised blood sugar, increased risk of bone density etc etc - but when these are given on a short term basis these are not permament and quickly resolve. if your doctor prescribes them short term to give both you and your son some relief from the suffering of all of this- he can then be safely weaned off it to allow the topical treatments to again take over. by this time hopefully you will have bought yourself enough time to get yourselves into see a specialist. doctors need to be aware of the psychological damage this disease causes as well - as often in many cases this can be more devastating to those affected than even the physical ones. i have posted numerous items on different topics on this site and we have tried all different remedies available. our girls eczema has been so severe we have had to put her on morphine for pain control, she has suffered major staphylococcal systemic infections and is now on a medication called azathioprine - an anticancer drug used for immunosuppression. she is only 4 years old. prednisolone was the only other drug that quickly and effectively brought the eczema down - but when you wean someone off from it it then returns - so it is important to get all those other treatments back in place which were/are effective for him working whilst on the oral steroids. WE still have to use high potency steroid creams with our girl on her skin even with this other medication, but she now has her skin - and a much better quality of life as a result. Contrary to what others may think - steroids do have their place here - they can be very useful - both topical and in the oral forms when prescribed and used properly. Certainly when asthma is involved as well - steroids are very important because not only do they calm down they body's hypersensitive immune reaction but they also reduce inflammation. let me know how you get on. you need to know all the options available
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My son has extreme eczema over 80% of his body. To make things worse his asthma is off the charts. He seems to be allergic to everything. The night time is unbearable. His back gets hot as fire and the skin eruptions begin. I have absolutely tried everything. He wasnt to die and I cant blame him. Is there anyone who can recommend a doctor natural or mainstream who specializes in this. We live close to Washington D.C. Thanks
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Hi,
I am from Singapore. I start having eczema one year back in 2002 when i still working. It all over my body now, starting on my stomack, back, then leg and lastly hands. I been to many doctors, both western and chinese physicians, but not much use. I been to the national skin centre in s'pore... but no use. They only given me cream to apply and anti-itch pills.
Right now, I am still under medication from a chinese physicians. I have to drink 2 big bowls of med every day. It is quite useful in removing the itchiness and promote new skin to grow, i feel.
But, I feeling very tired cos' new eczema would come up again after the old ones heal...leaving behind ugly marks.
I have not been working since. cos i am allergic to the aircon too. My face would flush and turn very red under the aircon.
I really at a lost of what to do now cos i been staying at home for nearly one year already..
Anyone can help me???
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Hey everyone, it is such a relief to discover that I am not alone in this. I have suffered from time to time with atopic dermatitus since junior high school, usually treated it with a cortisone steroid cream and in a few days it went away. However, as an adult, I've begun to suffer from round patches of what I now know as discoid eczema. Admittedly my stress is greater now and that flares it up, also it is appearing symetrically on my arms and legs. I thought this was weird but now I see it is not. Would someone give me the information to contact the Eczema Society please? And any other info that might be helpful in clearing up this condition. Thanks
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I was just diagnosed with Discoid Eczema. I thought I was finally through with eczema when I was 16. I had it on my feet from the time I was 2 months and it would itch and crack and bleed. Most doctors told me to just put some eucerin cream on it. That stuff doesn't work at all. All it does is keep it from getting too dry but its going to crack no matter what. I went to a dermatologist in Aberdeen Washington and he cured it in one week. I don't know what he gave me but I think it was a steroid cream. In any case after many many years of having this and I don't know how many doctors, it was cured in one week by one doctor. Now I live in California and I haven't had the money to make it up to WA. I thought I had ringworm at first but I went to the doc and he said it was Discoid Eczema. The steroid cream works when I use it. The spots come back in the same spots a couple days after I stop. Claritin works to get rid of the itch at night. The body shop has a ton of great creams that work well to get rid of the dryness. I found that the less I bathe and the more I keep it covered up the better it gets, like when I had eczema on my feet. Almost like I am allergic to water and air! Even when I don't use soap, which I have always gotten itchy from. If anyone knows a good soap that doesn't make you itch too much please let me know. Also if anyone knows of a good dermitologist in the Los Angeles California area!
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Hi Everyone,
I've been suffering from slight eczema, that appears only on my hands, since I was a child. But the condition had worsen a few years back and it's now all over my body. Recently, I was told by my dermatologist that it's in fact discoid eczema and was not caused by allegy but like whenever I ate stuff like something spicy or drank milk ,I felt that my eczema worsen so I left those out of my diet. Can anyone please confirm whether those food really caused my eczema to worsen or did I just over reacted.
Thanks for the help!
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ANONYMOUS. Have you been in touch with the eczema society? They will send you detailed info on discoid eczema.They say that this type of eczema is not allergy based and is quite difficult to treat. It works symetrical on both sides of the body which is something that has happened with my daughter. They also say and so has my specialist that normally after about a year the condition improves by itself....again this has also happened. Please do try and get a cream called Hemp Body Butter from the body shop. That combined with Homeopathy treatment has helped my daughter altho' its still there. If you want to talk direct with me leave a message and i will leave my email address for you.
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I have a 15 month old baby boy. Since birth he has had a small rough spot on his lower right leg. Over the last month he has developed more, mostly on his lower back legs and now a patch on the back of each arm. In the beginning the patches responded well to lotions and creams. I guess my question is, how concerned should I be and what is the best remedy for my little guy? I would prefer a natural approach.
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Hello Denny,
You're going through a pretty stressful time right now and often stress can be just the thing to trigger eczema. I get discoid eczema too, especially under stress, and it WILL go away. You just have to be patient. Try using a good emollient such as Eucerin 10% Urea cream on the affected areas two or three times a day. I've found this is the best cream for discoid eczema. Also, try to relax yourself - sitting quietly and concentrating on deep, slow breathing really helps, my GP taught me this last year. You maight also like to try Kava Kava, which is an excelleny aid to chilling out. Try not to worry about the eczema, as that will only make it worse. It WILL go, Denny, honest. Good luck.
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Ihave just been told by my doctor that i have discoid eczema.it only started about 2weeks ago and i've never had any sort of skin problem before.i'm 32and have recently split up with my husband so this really couldn't have started at a worse time for me,although i guess any time is a bad time.please tell me it will go away soon so i can get back to my normal life.
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My son has been diagnosed with eczema, but I don't believe that is what he has. In a course of one year, my son had "rough" patches. Almost perfectly rectangular on his limbs and neck area. There was no redness at all, no scab-like area, just unusually looking rough spots.
Almost everyone of these "patches" have now become smooth and has lost all pigment. They look white, no longer flesh color. The doctor says it is common, and that he needs more sunlight to get the pigment back again. We live in NY, and it is winter. I think another opinion is needed.
Has anyone heard of this? Thank you, Diana
(e-mail: wgtdt@aol.com)
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Thanks for that info. I will phone Yahl in due course.It is really good to hear from someone who has this type of eczema.Sometimes you feel very much alone not knowing who to turn to.My daughters ezcema has flared up a bit and has just had another dose of homeopathy,so hopefully there should be an improvement soon.Would still love to hear of anyone else with Discoid Eczema.
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Tanya - I have just contacted someone whose boy also has discoid eczema. She would love to hear from you. Her name is Mrs Yahl Smart. Her telephone number is 020 8361 6543. Please give her a call.
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I have read very little or in fact known of anyone else with this type of eczema.My daughter was diagnosed with this about 14months ago at the age of 20 months. Unfortunately she has it very badly on her face and I have only been able to keep it at bay with steroid cream. The information I got from the ezcema society was of great help.Now with a combination of homeopathy and a fantastic cream called Hemp Body Butter from the Body shop I am now only using steroid cream maybe twice a week(instead of twice a day every day).This kind of eczema is very rare especially in children and is not allegie based. I would be really interested if anybody knows any more about it.